Lapsed Catholics Explain Why They Leave the Church

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This is my thinking—or as I prefer to put it, because they’re weak.

I myself am really bad about Mass attendance (a combination of social anxiety, which isn’t my fault, and mind-boggling laziness, which is—I have actually developed low-level dehydration just because getting a drink was too much trouble), but I don’t hide behind sophistry like “oh, well, God is everywhere”. Communion isn’t, and even if you can’t receive, gathering together with others is specifically commanded by Christ.
*Scott Hahn, the Catholic convert, said that if people realised the tremendous value of the Eucharist they would be there every day. If the priest was handing out $100 bills there would be endless queues around the Church continually - yet the Eucharist is immeasurably more valuable and yet… *
 
My mother left the Church when I was quite young, so I only got a little bit of the Faith when I was very young. After a long time doing a lot of different things, I returned to the Church because I thought there had to more than what I had found in generic Protestantism and decided I needed a Rosary. Bought a Rosary and also picked up a copy of Hahn’s Rome Sweet Home, and that very Sunday, I went to Mass.

I am not sure why my mother left, but I know that some years before my return, I read a book set before V2 and thought to myself that if the Church were still like that, It would be my church. I wanted to be challenged, I wanted it to be… different from what was around me.

Beiing Catholic is *hard work. *You have to want it, you have to be engaged. Just praying the Rosary (5decades) is hard work for me (and doesn’t always happen).

The thing is, I think a lot of people don’t realize that. I have certainly gone through times when I was frustrated by the fact that it wasn’t being handed to me on a silver platter. Being Catholic is like anything: you have to “practice,” and the more you practice, the better Catholic you will be.

So I think a lot of people leave because they don’t expect or accept this reality.
 
I was a lapsed Catholic who attended Sunday Mass every week without fail. I stopped receiving Holy Communion for years. I watched just about every Sunday Mass attendee receive Holy Communion, and yet rarely a prayer or sermon on the #1 problem in our nation or the #1 cause - abortion and contraception respectively. 25,000 human lives discarded every week, and nary a prayer. I find it extremely interesting that the changes to the Mass liturgy from “born of the Virgin Mary and became man” to “incarnate of the Virgin Mary and became man”. So that’s my “excuse”.
*We need to challenge our priests.
Ask questions. Ask why they do not speak on certain subjects etc.
 
that really makes me sad to think that because of this priest, so many Catholics are not coming to Mass!!! have they found other parishes to attend? how long has he been a priest? maybe he feels alienated because he is from Ghana. i don’t know where you live, but maybe he does not feel welcome in this country? we have had priests from Nigeria and the Phillipines. i am sure it must be hard. has anyone tried to speak with the priest directly?
He celebrated his 25 year anniversary as a priest a couple of years ago. We are an all-black parish. We have had priests of Ghana, Nigeria, the UK, and both white and black American priests and this is the first time we have had these kinds of problems. The people at our church are usually very fond of our priests (the last priest–who was also from Ghana–said he was gaining too much weight because people were always feeding him). We had always had a reasonably large parish, but it was one of the white priests who really took the church to the next level. After a couple of years of him, we went from a reasonably large parish to a standing-room-only parish.

Yes, people have talked to him. But it is his belief that he is the king of the castle and his word is LAW in the parish. He’ll apologize, then go right back to doing what he was doing before because deep down he feels he should be able to do whatever he wants and we should just accept that. People are “voting with their feet” so-to-speak.
 
he was probably rejected at first so he develop a sort of defence mechanism. Or im just speculating.
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Nope. The priest before him was also from Ghana. We are used to having priests from different cultures (we are a black parish BTW) so it was not unusual for us to have a priest who was African, white, black, etc.
 
My mother left the Church when I was quite young, so I only got a little bit of the Faith when I was very young. After a long time doing a lot of different things, I returned to the Church because I thought there had to more than what I had found in generic Protestantism and decided I needed a Rosary. Bought a Rosary and also picked up a copy of Hahn’s Rome Sweet Home, and that very Sunday, I went to Mass.

I am not sure why my mother left, but I know that some years before my return, I read a book set before V2 and thought to myself that if the Church were still like that, It would be my church. I wanted to be challenged, I wanted it to be… different from what was around me.

Beiing Catholic is *hard work. *You have to want it, you have to be engaged. Just praying the Rosary (5decades) is hard work for me (and doesn’t always happen).

The thing is, I think a lot of people don’t realize that. I have certainly gone through times when I was frustrated by the fact that it wasn’t being handed to me on a silver platter. Being Catholic is like anything: you have to “practice,” and the more you practice, the better Catholic you will be.

So I think a lot of people leave because they don’t expect or accept this reality.
Good show.

Excellent analysis.

I agree with you. 👍👍
 
What about those who AGREE with everything the Church teaches, who don’t want abortion on demand, women ‘priests,’ or homosexual ‘marriage’ but are just despondent over the behavior of Catholics?
 
I watched just about every Sunday Mass attendee receive Holy Communion, and yet rarely a prayer or sermon on the #1 problem in our nation or the #1 cause - abortion and contraception respectively.
When I attend Catholic Mass, rarely do I not hear abortion mentioned. I’d like to hear a bit more about the poor, war, the lack of adequate affordable healthcare for so many. To name a few. I think this ties into the view of some in the original post in regard to their becoming lapsed due to the political. I find lots of emphasis on conservative political issues today within Catholicism. Abortion, gay marriage, stem cells and other conservative ideas. We see it here on the forum everyday. It’s not that hard for me to understand why those lapsed for political reasons could come to believe the Catholic Church is an arm of the Republican Party in the US for instance or of other conservative parties around the world. Peace.
 
*Their reasons ranged from the personal (“the pastor who crowned himself king and looks down on all”) to the political (“eliminate the extreme conservative haranguing”) to the doctrinal (“don’t spend so much time on issues like homosexuality and birth control”).

In addition, they said, they didn’t like the church’s handling of the clergy sex abuse scandal and were upset that divorced and remarried Catholics are unwelcome at Mass.



The respondents also called for better homilies, better music and more accountability of the church staff.*
Story at USA Today
I think one thing the faithful might do good to remember is that for these lapsed Catholics each of their reasons is a valid reason for them. I don’t see how it helps to make light of them.
 
I find lots of emphasis on conservative political issues today within Catholicism. Abortion, gay marriage, stem cells and other conservative ideas. We see it here on the forum everyday.
Conservative ideas, or doctrines of faith? Have fun trying to change Catholic doctrines of faith from those pesky conservative ideas.
 
Conservative ideas, or doctrines of faith?
Abortion, fetal stem cell research, cloning, same sex marriage, and euthanasia are all condemned as intrisically moral evils by the Catholic Church.
 
What about those who AGREE with everything the Church teaches, who don’t want abortion on demand, women ‘priests,’ or homosexual ‘marriage’ but are just despondent over the behavior of Catholics?
You are remain silent, stop judging, and watch quietly as principle gives way to efficacy and expediency.😦

I don’t want to channel slick Willy, but I really do feel your pain. Sad times.
 
Researcher says survey on why Catholics left church provides insight
By Carol Zimmermann
Catholic News Service

catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1201339.htm
Overall, most respondents said they left the parish and the Catholic Church and were ambivalent if their departure was a conscious decision or not.
Many had positive reactions about their parish, saying the staff was welcoming and the pastor approachable for the most part. They also considered themselves members of the parish, but some were disheartened that they had not been missed when they left.
Most did not have a bad experience with the church and the vast majority did not join another faith community.
 
Researcher says survey on why Catholics left church provides insight
By Carol Zimmermann
Catholic News Service

catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1201339.htm
I do have to say that the one knock I have against Catholicism in general, particularly American parishes, is that they do not welcome you in to the fold. When I was worshipping with a Baptist congregation years ago, as I approached the church, greeters were there and they knew that I wasn’t a member. They welcomed me, introduced themselves, showed us around, and (gasp) gave us the contact information of the pastor and member of the welcoming committee. After services were over, there was a social event in the gymnasium and we were welcomed by even more people. They really went out of their way to open their community up and made us feel welcome. Within a couple of visits, we were invited over for dinner at a couple of homes, etc… I have never had this happen in any Catholic community I have been a part of. It was more like “Are you new? Here is the parish registration form. Your donation envelopes will be delivered to you in a couple of weeks.” If I wanted to be part of the community, I have to do out of my way to make it known that I am interested in stuff. I even contacted the parochial vicar several times about being an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion, and I never heard back.
 
I do have to say that the one knock I have against Catholicism in general, particularly American parishes, is that they do not welcome you in to the fold.
You are so right. I visited a Baptist service and a Church of Christ service some years ago, and I got the same reception you did - from each. They were genuinely welcoming. Not to say that there aren’t similar Catholic parishes, but they are FEW and FAR between.
 
Many Protestant religions have an emphasis on fellowship. Sunday services are optional, so this spirit of fellowship is more critical to church attendance. In the Catholic church, Sunday Mass is mandatory, which was sufficient to ensure church attendance in the past. Not so now.
 
I do have to say that the one knock I have against Catholicism in general, particularly American parishes, is that they do not welcome you in to the fold. When I was worshipping with a Baptist congregation years ago, as I approached the church, greeters were there and they knew that I wasn’t a member. They welcomed me, introduced themselves, showed us around, and (gasp) gave us the contact information of the pastor and member of the welcoming committee. After services were over, there was a social event in the gymnasium and we were welcomed by even more people. They really went out of their way to open their community up and made us feel welcome. Within a couple of visits, we were invited over for dinner at a couple of homes, etc… I have never had this happen in any Catholic community I have been a part of. It was more like “Are you new? Here is the parish registration form. Your donation envelopes will be delivered to you in a couple of weeks.” If I wanted to be part of the community, I have to do out of my way to make it known that I am interested in stuff. I even contacted the parochial vicar several times about being an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion, and I never heard back.
Yeah… seen it. And you will hear, ‘It’s not about you, it’s about the Eucharist.’ But that is one reason we are losing people to Evangelicals.

And nothing about the teachings of the Church would have to change for parishes to be more welcoming. But it’s not happening, so until then…

Hm. I should look at the Fr. Barron link.
 
It really upsets me when these people act like the Catholic Church is the only one to have experienced sex-abuse scandals and to have not handled them well!! Other churches had cover ups too and even higher abuse rates!!

And if someone else’s scandals makes you leave the Church then your relationship was with man- not God.
What about people who were directly involved? I had a (well loved by the parish) priest try to rape me when I was younger. When I brought it up to archbishop, he blew me off, and said “I must have had it coming.” Then they “accidently” gave out my full name in the state Catholic newspaper. :rolleyes: And the parishioners were not very nice to me. I was attacked by men who thought I was now “easy” and women would throw garbage at me. So I can’t even go by a Catholic Church without wanting to cry or be sick. So going to Mass is right out. The last time I tried to go to Mass I ended up crying for hours. And I’ve tried going back, but the memory of it always comes back. And I’ve been to therapy, but nothing will make the memory go away.

Later, I got a letter of apology from the archdiocese. The priest was finally caught after raping several woman over several years (I was the only woman who fought him off). Like an apology will restore my reputation. I thought priests were supposed to be representatives of Jesus on Earth. To say, “just suck it up and go to Mass” doesn’t work.
 
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