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Brendan_64 said:
What has this got to do with receiving Communion or not? Mass is not simply just about receiving Communion. You haven’t closed anything.
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The main point of Mass is to receive the real body and blood of our lord and savior Jesus Christ, and to worship him. Everything else beside that is futile compared to receiving the Eucharist. Arriving late to mass doesn’t disqualify someone from receiving the Eucharist. Pope Francis wants everybody to understand the sacredness of Mass and be able to join in with us. I am very sad that you do not share that view with us. We will welcome you any time you care to change your mind.
 
JewishCatholic said:
The main point of Mass is to receive the real body and blood of our lord and savior Jesus Christ, and to worship him. Everything else beside that is futile compared to receiving the Eucharist. Arriving late to mass doesn’t disqualify someone from receiving the Eucharist. Pope Francis wants everybody to understand the sacredness of Mass and be able to join in with us. I am very sad that you do not share that view with us. We will welcome you any time you care to change your mind.
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We?

Question: do you have to be in a state of grace to recieve?
 
Confiteor_Deo said:
Yes, but it is a venial sin to intentionally be late for Mass and to leave early. People will always do the minimum. Some people refuse to hear Mass unless it is a day of obligation.
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Isn’t every Sunday a holy day of obligation?
 
I thought the point of going to Mass is to worship the Lord. Whether one receives Communion depends on whether someone is in a state of grace. Even if one is in a state of grace, I don’t believe there is any rule saying that one has to receive. Also, there is an obligation to attend Mass every Sunday (unless sick or other excused reason).

I found this link and thought it was good: catholiceducation.org/en/marriage-and-family/parenting/8-reasons-to-go-to-mass.html
 
Graceful_Lamb said:
Isn’t every Sunday a holy day of obligation?
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Yes. What I meant in my post is that people will do the bear minimum in Mass attendance by only going on Sundays & holy days (days of obligation) and will scoff at the thought of hearing Mass when they don’t have to (for example, weekdays).
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
We?

Question: do you have to be in a state of grace to recieve?
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Yes, you must be in the state of grace to receive.

The point of hearing Mass, besides receiving Holy Communion, is to offer the Sacrifice of the Cross through the priest. You don’t need to be in the state of grace to hear Mass well and receive graces from it.
 
Confiteor_Deo said:
Yes, you must be in the state of grace to receive.

The point of hearing Mass, besides receiving Holy Communion, is to offer the Sacrifice of the Cross through the priest. You don’t need to be in the state of grace to hear Mass well and receive graces from it.
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Must? I can still take eucharist when I am in a state of mortal sin though…

What happens when you are knowingly in a state of mortal sin, but take eucharist anyway? Its still the body of Christ??? or is it not when someone in a state of mortal sin takes it?:eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
JewishCatholic said:
Must? I can still take eucharist when I am in a state of mortal sin though…

What happens when you are knowingly in a state of mortal sin, but take eucharist anyway? Its still the body of Christ??? or is it not when someone in a state of mortal sin takes it?:eek::eek::eek::eek:
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It is still the Body of Christ when someone in the state of sin receives, but it would be better for them if It wasn’t. You commit a mortal sin of sacrilege when you receive in the state of sin, so you must be in the state of grace to receive Holy Communion worthily.
 
Must? I can still take eucharist when I am in a state of mortal sin though…
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If you knowingly receive the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin, you commit another mortal sin, Sacrilege.
 
JewishCatholic said:
The main point of Mass is to receive the real body and blood of our lord and savior Jesus Christ, and to worship him. Everything else beside that is futile compared to receiving the Eucharist.
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No, it’s not. The main purpose of Mass is not in order to receive the Eucharist. If that was the case then it would follow that to go to Mass and not receive the Eucharist would seem to be a futile exercise.

Mass is about being present and bearing witness to the sacrifice of Our Lord on Calvary through the unbloodied re-creation of the this event on the altar before us. We stand with Mary, John and all the angels and saints in Heaven, at the foot of the cross and witnesses and participants to the sacrifice of Christ.

As Catholics we are obliged to attend Mass every Sunday and Holy day of obligation, while we are only obliged to receive Communion once a year (although we are recommended to attend much more often). What would be the point of this combination of obligations if attending Mass without receiving Communion was futile?
 
Glennon_P said:
So…if I arrive just in time for the start of the Offertory and leave immediately after Communion, I have satisfied my obligation?

After reading this thread over the weekend, I checked my watch during Sunday morning Mass. We started at 8:00; the Offertory started at 8:29 and the priest’s Communion was at 8:40. Mass ended at 8:55.

So my obligation was only for the 11 minutes between 8:29 and 8:40?

This thread reminds me a little of the question priests inevitably get from high school age kids - “How far can we go on a date before it’s a mortal sin?” In other words, “What am I minimally required to do?” (or “What can I get away with?”).
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Utterly remarkable, isn’t it? I would hope no contemporary theologian would advance such a thesis as a Mass obligation along the lines you demonstrate. Such concepts are quite at variance to what the renewal of the liturgy was all about.
 
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