Latin Mass Millennials

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I doubt that St. Paul ever actually began an epistle with the phrase “brothers and sisters” or even “sisters and brothers.”
 
GIRM 24- "However, the Priest will remember that he is the servant of the Sacred Liturgy and that he himself is not permitted, on his own initiative, to add, to remove, or to change anything in the celebration of Mass."

Roman Missal, 29 - Pray, brethren (brothers and sisters),that my sacrifice …
‘brethren’ is more authentic to the Latin, but, if ‘brothers and sisters’ is used, it’s to be used in that order
 
I don’t disagree with anything you posted here. I was just relating my own observation in light of the editorial posted above where the author point blank says he and his family began attending the EF in earnest after the recent round of scandals broke. If he is under the impression that the EF somehow intrinsically prevents sinners from sinning then I think he’s in for a rude awakening.
 
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I doubt that St. Paul ever actually began an epistle with the phrase “brothers and sisters” or even “sisters and brothers.”
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Its usually translated as “brethren”, although some bible versions phrase it as “brothers and sisters” like in 1 Thess 3
 
Conversions can be glacial.

My wife and I returned to the Church in 2014. We knew nothing about the old rites, or their existence. I thought the OF was the mass from St. Peter down to the present. When I first heard about the “Latin Mass”, I thought it was nothing but the OF in Latin. Attended my first EF masses in 2016 (sporadically), by which time we were well established in our OF parish and knew many parishoners, knew the priest well, … We attended the EF a little more and prayed for over 2 years before registering at our current ICKSP parish about a month ago.

I think many others are in the stage of not knowing anything about the EF; or they have experienced it but are praying about whether to leave their current parish, where they may be well-established and have many relationships.
 
The thing that regularly annoys me is that people start going to the Latin mass part time for a couple months and then start acting all superior about it. He has been going twice a month for five months. 10 whole masses, time to write a magazine article.

I have had a dozen coworkers and acquaintances that sound just like him. Yet a year later they are back at their neighborhood novus order mass. It’s become a phase for an awful lot of young people just like being vegan or belonging to an expensive cycling studio.

And I am a millennial that likes the Latin Mass and go approximately 20% of the time.
 
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I personally think in 100 years it will just be the ordinary mass again
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Neither of us will be around to say “I told you so”, but I really don’t think so.

Anything is possible, but it would be an incredible turnaround for interest in Latin to raise to a sufficient level. To justify that much scholarship, at the expense of other things that could be done instead with the time and money, I just don’t see the investment being made.
 
I will preface these remarks by saying I DO NOT believe that the Mass in the Ordinary form is in any way deficient.
That said, one cannot attend the Extra Ordinary form, properly done, and not realize that things which should not have been left behind were, in fact, left behind.
Did the change of the Mass Rite lead to the current situation in Holy Mother Church? I do not think so.
Were there issues pre-Vatican II? Yes, obviously. See Here:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11764a.htm

But, and there is always a but, It can be said that the loss of The EF Mass was part and parcel of numerous problems that began after Vatican II that helped exacerbate the mess we see today.
For a good read into where we are now, try this:

edwardpentin.co.uk

Examining the Modernist Roots of the Church’s Current Crisis

Scholars trace the origins of today’s doctrinal and moral confusion to the philosophical error of Modernism which asserts that truth can ‘change and evolve.’ Theologians, historians
edwardpentin.co.uk

I believe either form of the Mass, done properly, with adherence to the rubrics, can and does evoke the reverence and focus on God and Christ that we should have. It should not be an Either/Or situation. That, I think, Was what Pope E. Benedict XVI intended with S.P.
 
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Latin was never meant to be a mutable language as are the modern languages. 100 years from now you will still have the vernacular but no doubt you will have some English revisions. Maybe more suitable to music writers? 🙂
 
Hipsters usually have this type of mindset.

They think they invented everything.
 
Actually you’re a Millennial. If you turned 31 this year you must have been born on 1987.

Millennials were born between 1981 to 1996. You’re well with this range.

Gen X were born between 1965 and 1980.

Baby boomers were born between 1946 and 1964.
 
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I have to admit that not once in my life have I attended a Latin Mass. my parents were married in Latin. My older siblings were baptized in Latin. No where I have lived had offered Latin Mass within driving distance. Two places I lived in the past now offer it but did not when I lived there. I don’t feel like I have missed anything when it comes to Catholicism. I have attended Masses in several different languages. How is Latin different?
 
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I have attended Masses in several different languages. How is Latin different?
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The Traditional Latin Mass has differences in the prayers and the calendar than does the Mainstream Mass in the vernaculars. (Although that mass can be said in Latin too.)

In the modern age, you should see the Traditional Latin Mass for yourself right on youtube.

Time well spent to understand I think.
 
I somewhat remember my parents saying that, but I was young and we had just moved to the US so Mass was in English for the first time. I don’t know if they were talking about Mass in English specifically or Latin Mass being different. I unfortunately will never get that answer, at least not in this side of heaven.
 
Sorry, but one last question. Are any videos on YouTube good, or is it one of those things that you need to be careful of? I know some videos related to Catholicism are not accurate.
 
I cannot disagree. Unfortunately the improvisation in the Ordinary form goes on with tacit approval of the laity and ,it seems, many Bishops. But the OF can be said in a reverential manner. Just watch EWTN. Sadly it must be stated that in many Parishes that is not what one sees.
 
I am not saying to look at opinion pieces on youtube, which only reflect the opinion of those making them.

Instead, look at actual videos of Latin masses, that’s not an opinion, these are actual locations they will tell you where they are doing the video.

This is 2018, any kind of religious service you want to see, you don’t have to go to a strange place.
 
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