According to Google Translate:I was wondering was anyone out there to give me a translation to this phrase that I absolutely would love. It is “Give me more than the life I see.”
If anyone can help me that would be awesome. Thank you !
My Latin is not good enough to give the OP an answer, but this doesn’t look right to me. It looks like ‘Give me life, as much I see’, or ‘Give me life, which I see’. Maybe chevalier will chip in.According to Google Translate:
Da mihi animam, quam video
Someone who actually knows Latin will have to confirm how accurate that is, though.
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I would probably render it literally something like this:I was wondering was anyone out there to give me a translation to this phrase that I absolutely would love. It is “Give me more than the life I see.”
If anyone can help me that would be awesome. Thank you !
thanks mark, you always come through
Yeah, awesome job!
Great job, MT.
Indeed, although you do not need an ablative plural (abundantibus) here – either abundantem, to describe and match the case of vitam, or the adverb abundanter, is called for.
The Latin infinitive won’t stand up to quite the breadth of use that the English infinitive will. A substantive clause of result with facio or its compounds should take ut and the subjunctive, not an infinitive with an accusative subject; thus, Faciat Dominus ut videam.
I think you’re correct. I cribbed it from the Vulgate. I think the Latin would translate literally into English as “with abundances.” I suppose it’s an idiomatic cum clause. Who knows? I assumed St. Jerome spoke passable Latin!
True. In epigramatic later Latin, though, one does see it used from time to time. Interestingly, it is a common way of speaking in Spanish still. But I expect that the old monks would have reduced it even further, to something like “Ut videam.” If one looks at heraldic mottos, they usually sum up the idea in two or three words, relying on the reader’s familiarity with the subject matter. E.g., the Oxford University motto: Dominus illuminatio mea. You just gotta know the psalm.
Ah, but if you’re looking at John 10:10, that is not abundantibus in the ablative, it is abundantius – the comparative adverb, “more abundantly.”
Yeah, postclassical and mediaeval Latin exhibited enough changes, usually simplifications, in grammar that I can’t categorically say you were wrong with the infinitive. As one example, the infinitive in “venturus est iudicare vivos et mortuos” (“he will come to judge the living and the dead”) would have been quite wrong in Virgil’s day, or even Jerome’s (cf., e.g., Is. 3:13, “Stat ad iudicandum Dominus”) – but was clearly okay for formal usage by whatever time the Apostles’ Creed got standardized in Latin, around the 8th century if memory serves.Which is not exactly correct English, now that I think of it.
So the final translation for Praesta plus quam vitam visam would be - “Grant me more the seen life.” Am I wrong or am I right?
Literally:
Thanks! Yeah, I just studied it in school – public school, incidentally – due to being a nerd, and since then have tried to keep up with it at least at a reading level.
Good for you.
I hope to learn Latin one day as well.