Laura Bush's Comments After Papal Audience

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The president’s wife held a Press Conference after her audience with the pope. Surely someone told her that it is not the done thing to comment publically on what is discussed in a private audience with the pope?

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yinekka:
The president’s wife held a Press Conference after her audience with the pope. Surely someone told her that it is not the done thing to comment publically on what is discussed in a private audience with the pope?

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Really? You aren’t supposed to comment publically on what you discuss with the Holy Father? I never knew that! You learn something new everyday.
 
Surely someone told her that it is not the done thing to comment publically on what is discussed in a private audience with the pope?
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Someone should tell Zenit, they are a Catholic group.
 
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they kept calling him “his holy father”
they mixed the 2 titles His Holiness, or The Holy Father
 
Sounds right to me. Maybe she was talking about her brother-in-law Jeb – he converted to being a Catholic so that would be “his Holy Father” but not “her Holy Father” because she isn’t Catholic.

Did anybody follow that 😛
 
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Not only that but every catholic on earth (or so it seemed) who ever met John Paul 2 told of what exchanges they had with the Pope in a private setting after his death. Somehow I doubt this as real law.
There might be certain private meeting in discussing official church doctrine which might be top secret (the recent discussions on limbo would seem to fit a description) but a general meeting of dignataries or regular persons woudln’t seem to be top secret or else we wouldn’t have known so much about them after JP2’s death.
 
I think that this is more of an unwritten rule. When Bruno Sammartino was champion of the world, he and his family had a private audience with Pope Paul VI. That information wasn’t made public until MANY years after his retirement and disappearance from public site.
 
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they kept calling him “his holy father”
they mixed the 2 titles His Holiness, or The Holy Father
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Well forgive them, they are Protestants, I’m Protestant too, I’d probably get mixed up if I had to address him …( I would ask Catholic friends just before in order not to get mixed up …) and anyhow it would be uncomfortable for me to call a MAN “Holy Father” since I sometimes use that expression when I pray God …
What about … Benedict ? Mr Ratzinger ??? Benny … 😃
 
Sir Knight:
Sounds right to me. Maybe she was talking about her brother-in-law Jeb – he converted to being a Catholic so that would be “his Holy Father” but not “her Holy Father” because she isn’t Catholic.

Did anybody follow that 😛
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I agree with you : I’m a Protestant and for me it would be difficult to call him “Holy Father” … ( my “Holy Father” is GOD ! )
 
Frankly, she discussed state business which is promoting unity and peace with him and made it publicity. Yawn! No smoking gun or state secrets reveled that I can see.

As to calling him Holy Father…Certainly St Paul and St Mathew knew what she was talking about. :rolleyes:

St. Matthew calls Abraham the father of us all (4:16). That, of course, concerns a father who is dead; that’s one difference. In his epistle to the Hebrews, St. Paul speaks of the fathers and prophets of the Old Testament; these are also dead. But he also speaks about living fathers: Though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel (1 Cor. 4:15).

Here he says quite clearly that “I am your spiritual father.”, he is saying that you have not many fathers, therefore you have some, and I am one of them because I have begotten you in the Gospel"
 
So… if you meet with *the *Holy Father… you are not to discuss any of the topics of discussion?

The article about the 5 rules is great though!

Laura 😛
 
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Huguenot:
Well forgive them, they are Protestants, I’m Protestant too, I’d probably get mixed up if I had to address him …( I would ask Catholic friends just before in order not to get mixed up …) and anyhow it would be uncomfortable for me to call a MAN “Holy Father” since I sometimes use that expression when I pray God …
What about … Benedict ? Mr Ratzinger ??? Benny … 😃
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not everything everyone says is critical or an insult. you have to admit that “his holy father” is odd in even the grammatical sense. and the humor is that she was making an effort to use his title but confused 2 of them.
I if i met the Dalai Lama, I’d call him his holiness becuase that a title people use for him. it has nothing to do with whether or not I actually THINK he is holy, that is what you call him. I meet a jewish leader, I call him rabbi. he is not my teacher or master but that is his title. see the pattern? the first lady was trying to do this but made a mistake in her attempt.
 
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5 Rules for Covering a Vatican Visit
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Thank you for that, I found it somewhat amusing, most especially the nuns.

After considering the topic of not speaking about a private meeting with the Holy Father, it seems quite logical. I figure it has something to do with monarchies. Does anyone know of any particular rule concerning silence about discussions in a private meeting with a monarch? Would anyone know of a site for proper etiquette when meeting a monarch?
 
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yinekka:
The president’s wife held a Press Conference after her audience with the pope. Surely someone told her that it is not the done thing to comment publically on what is discussed in a private audience with the pope?

www.zenit.org
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This is news to me as well. I seem to recall a Catholic writer–Scott Hahn maybe–who described a meeting with Pope John Paul II. Of course, Scott seems to like to drop names quite a bit…
 
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Brain:
not everything everyone says is critical or an insult. you have to admit that “his holy father” is odd in even the grammatical sense. and the humor is that she was making an effort to use his title but confused 2 of them.
I if i met the Dalai Lama, I’d call him his holiness becuase that a title people use for him. it has nothing to do with whether or not I actually THINK he is holy, that is what you call him. I meet a jewish leader, I call him rabbi. he is not my teacher or master but that is his title. see the pattern? the first lady was trying to do this but made a mistake in her attempt.
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You’re right, Brain. She deserves an “A” for trying, but a “C” for results.

Not to change the exact issue of this thread, but did anyone else think it strange that she wore a veil to meet the Pope. She and her daughter dressed in all black, like a funeral or something. Is there some kind of “ettiquette” behind this that most Catholics have never heard of? Do visitors receive a “to do” list when meeting the Pope, or is this just Mrs. Bush’s best guess?
 
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seabird3579:
You’re right, Brain. She deserves an “A” for trying, but a “C” for results.

Not to change the exact issue of this thread, but did anyone else think it strange that she wore a veil to meet the Pope. She and her daughter dressed in all black, like a funeral or something. Is there some kind of “ettiquette” behind this that most Catholics have never heard of? Do visitors receive a “to do” list when meeting the Pope, or is this just Mrs. Bush’s best guess?
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The White House has a director of protocol and I am sure that Mrs. Bush’s attire was the protocol when a woman meets the Holy Father.
 
Would anyone know of a site for proper etiquette when meeting a monarch?

I don’t know of a site but I do know that it is not the done thing to comment publically on the topic/s of conversation in a private meeting with e.g. Queen Elizabeth II.
 
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