Lawyer argues sex with dead deer not crime

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didymus said:
[Sorry to spoil the fun but I’m sick to death of everybody mocking lawyers and blaming them for everything including the downfall of western civilisation. It’s this guy’s job to defend him any way he can, if the legislature didn’t pass an anti-necro-bestiality statute, it’s the attorney’s *duty
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to use that defense.

I disagree. I think that the lawyer has a higher duty than knivving within the contexts of positivist laws. If his client has truly done wrong, his job shouldn’t be to “get him off”, but to help him take responsibility for his actions and find the easiest, best way to refinement of life. Anything else is just enabling of immorality.
I pray none of you ever needs a lawyer, but I bet you’ll be grateful for him.
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My bad opinion of lawyers came only after “needing a lawyer”. Before that I admired them (and once, gaff, even thought about being one). I’m now convinced that it’s most often a game which is all about self interest and money.
PS – the downfall of western civilisation is really being caused by MSWs and Ed.D.s 😃
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And PhDs and M.D.s
 
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PS -- the downfall of western civilisation is really being caused by MSWs and Ed.D.s :D
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What is an MSW? The only thing I could come up with is Municipal Solid Waste, which is certainly a problem in both eastern and western civilization.😃
 
Chris_LaRock said:
Maybe someone should buy him a Play Station 3, so he has something to do with his spare time?👍
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:rolleyes: Hey! That’s the same thing a new co-worker told my dh about having s with ME after seeing a pic on the monitor of all the kids!😃 He just laughed and said he was sorry the poor fellow thought that could compare. But yeah. Dh REALLY wants a PS3 too. His PS2 is almost shot.**
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According to the PS3 thread, it’s quite a trial to get one with riots and all. Mind you, since he’ll probably turn up to the que with his trousers at his ankles dragging his girlfriend by the hoof the que will no doubt thin out soon!

(Apologies for poor and tasteless humour!)
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:rotfl: Ha! My dh has a theory that if he takes all the kids with him, the line will clear fairly quick. People are scared of kids you know. Doesn’t seem to matter how good they are, people are kid-shy. My dh thinks they are scared fertility is contagious.
chicago said:
I disagree. I think that the lawyer has a higher duty than knivving within the contexts of positivist laws. If his client has truly done wrong, his job shouldn’t be to “get him off”, but to help him take responsibility for his actions and find the easiest, best way to refinement of life. Anything else is just enabling of immorality.

NO!! A lawyers job is to uphold the law and to defend his client. Teaching responsibility, refinement of life, and morality is the job of the parents and church - NOT government. The lawyer can dislike him and encourage him to seek help, but an attorney is not a moral judge.
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Lance said:
IMO the guy should be in a mental hospital, not prison. I’ll wager that he is or was heavy into drugs.
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I assume you are referring to the attorney, yes? :confused:

Seriously, an attorney is supposed to “zealously” defend their client. I think the fact he/she put forth such a defense indicates he/she is deperate.

The real tragedy is that some judges actually take this seriously. And some prosecutors let the judge get away with making new law because they do not have the budget to appeal a “small” case like this.
 
Rob_s_Wife said:
NO!! A lawyers job is to uphold the law and to defend his client. Teaching responsibility, refinement of life, and morality is the job of the parents and church - NOT government. The lawyer can dislike him and encourage him to seek help, but an attorney is not a moral judge.
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I disagree. There are higher standards which an attorney ought to be faithful to than mere positivist law and “defense of clientel” within those contexts you describe. But, then, I’m one of those ne’er do’el natural law types who holds to an objectivist and Catholic perspective. So if you really believe in what you stated as all a lawyer’s job is, well then maybe you ought to take a look/check at your underlying principles, also. Much of what is wrong with our present system likely has to do with people taking the position which you have outlined.
 
Lance said:
IMO the guy should be in a mental hospital, not prison. I’ll wager that he is or was heavy into drugs.
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I agree. This guy belongs in a mental hospital. I seriously doubt that he will go to jail or prison though considering that it is a misdemeanor charge.
 
chicago said:
I disagree. There are higher standards which an attorney ought to be faithful

of course. God first.

to than mere positivist law and “defense of clientel” within those contexts you describe. But, then, I’m one of those ne’er do’el natural law types who holds to an objectivist and Catholic perspective. So if you really believe in what you stated as all a lawyer’s job is, well then maybe you ought to take a look/check at your underlying principles, also.

Slandering the state of my principles and whether or not I’m Catholic enough according to you is a view you are freely allowed - although it has no credence with the issue at hand and shows a lack of ability to defend your own position.

Much of what is wrong with our present system likely has to do with people taking the position which you have outlined.
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**My position is that a defense lawyer should gasp defend his client. That is his job. If he does not feel he can ethicly do his job - then he should attain a different job. **

If he can and sees a need to offer help outside of his abilities as a lawyer for his client, such as counseling or spiritual guidance, then I should hope he would. Defending his client does not prevent that. I could just as easily argue that prison and mental facilities are not known for inspiring moral growth. Many times attaining help is a major consideration in sentencing/verdict.
rpp said:
Seriously, an attorney is supposed to “zealously” defend their client. I think the fact he/she put forth such a defense indicates he/she is deperate.
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I agree.
 
People having sex with other animals is dangerous because he can get bacteria/viruses that are common only to that species.

I remember a simliar story about a guy who fell in love with a sheep.

One day he got really ill. The doctors wondered why he had a bacteria/virus that usually is seen only in sheep. Why did it cross species in his case? Eventually, the guy admitted he had sex with his sheep.

The guy who has sex with animals --dead or alive–should see a doctor as he is (mentally) sick.
Chris_LaRock said:
Lev 18:23 Thou shalt not copulate with any beast: neither shalt thou be defiled with it. A woman shall not lie down to a beast, nor copulate with it: because it is a heinous crime.

Lev 20:15 He that shall copulate with any beast or cattle, dying let him die: the beast also ye shall kill.
Lev 20:16 The woman that shall lie under any beast, shall be killed together with the same. Their blood be upon them.
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I read a few weeks ago a thread here regarding some scientists mixing human genes with animal genes and the resulting animal is called a crimera.

I am wondering is the passages here could mean that God does not want human genes diluted with other species’ genes–whether it be through actual physical contact or through artificial means , like in the laboratory.

Anyway, hope the judge will send the guy a doctor rather than jail. He is obviously mentally sick. 😦
 
What’s this? A public pretender actually trying to defend the accused?
 
I find Leviticus to be a bit too bloodthirsty for my tastes, but I doubt that anyone in their right mind would think that sex with animals is normal or right be they Christian or atheist.

The animal concept you’re referring to is called a Chimera, (based on the ancient Greek monster with the body of a lion, the heads of a lion and goat and a snake for a tail).

Mixing genes is a scary practice which I’m against in principle and practice. Forget humans for a second and consider genetically modified food? Do you want fish DNA in your loaf of bread? Check the label, if it says anything to suggest genetic modification, you’re eating Satanic filth, and I mean that as sincerely as I can.
 
Durendin said:
I find Leviticus to be a bit too bloodthirsty for my tastes, but I doubt that anyone in their right mind would think that sex with animals is normal or right be they Christian or atheist.

The animal concept you’re referring to is called a Chimera, (based on the ancient Greek monster with the body of a lion, the heads of a lion and goat and a snake for a tail).

Mixing genes is a scary practice which I’m against in principle and practice. Forget humans for a second and consider genetically modified food? Do you want fish DNA in your loaf of bread? Check the label, if it says anything to suggest genetic modification, you’re eating Satanic filth, and I mean that as sincerely as I can.
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Much of what people have eaten for hundreds of years has been genetically modified. This was done by selective breeding of plant and animal stock.
 
HoppityRedux said:
Much of what people have eaten for hundreds of years has been genetically modified. This was done by selective breeding of plant and animal stock.
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I’m of the opinion that there’s a world of difference between breeding stronger cattle together to improve the stock and sticking animal DNA in plants.
 
HoppityRedux said:
Much of what people have eaten for hundreds of years has been genetically modified. This was done by selective breeding of plant and animal stock.
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Durendin said:
I’m of the opinion that there’s a world of difference between breeding stronger cattle together to improve the stock and sticking animal DNA in plants.
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**Completely OT and I completely agree!🙂 **
 
Anyone concerned with eating Satnic filth should be aware the US is by far the leader in raising genetically modified crops. 45% of the US corn crop is GM. 85% of he US soybean crop is GM. We are eating these, and other GM crops, everyday. Soy oil is in hundreds of other foods. Corn syrup has replaced sugar in thousands of products. You can’t get away from it. We all eat it.

pewagbiotech.org/resources/factsheets/display.php3?FactsheetID=2
 
There was a big hissy fit a few years ago in the UK where the makers of GM products were locked in a court battle with the Government over what goes on the label of GM products. The pro-GM lobby wanted no notification on the products (for obvious reasons) and wanted the burden to be on the makers of non-GM foods to state that theirs was GM free.

The Lord was on the side of the Goverment and sent the most vicious force in the land to their aid, the *“British Tabloid Press!” *Soon headlines such as “Frankenstein Foods” along with Bio-Hazard symbols were the order of the day. Of course, that pretty much ended the debate and GM foods might as well have a skull and crossbones symbol on them. That way they might sell some as rat poison or something.

Strangely enough, it was one of the few (very few!) things the British and French peoples and Governments ever agreed on.
 
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