LDS Alaska Mission President says missionaries do not proselytize members of other religions!

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Hey Todd520,
Are you Catholic or mormon…and yes the Church needs to fight those heresies with the teaching of catechism and any other way possible.
Absolutely not. The Church should not, will not accept “any other way possible” again. That is diametrically opposed to the way of Christ. Correction is done in love and not in the manner of a screaming villain ready to burn all at the stake that disagrees. Catholics demonstrate the truth of the Gospel by living it, loving those that are lost, and by praying for all who are without the blessings of the Church.
 
Assuming that I meant killing people is absolutely ludicrous… I mean really do you know what century we live in… I mean going to the people and talking to them or warning them in Church…I feel especially bad for the Catholics in Latin American countries…the mormons are constantly attacking them…killing people hahahahaahaha
 
We try not to do that, so much. 😉 (the putting down of other religions part, I mean.)

So…were you stopped by the folks with the signs about how evil the Mormons are, or was it a slow day? 😉
LOL! No the visit was very pleasant and non-controversial. I have a particular love of religious architecture, it tends to be the most magnificent of all genre. I thoroughly enjoyed the interior of the Assembly Hall while my wife was thrilled by the Tabernacle interior, most recognizable thanks to the choir broadcasts and we were in time to hear an impromptu Organ recital. What more could we wish for? I would have loved to have seen the Temple interior but I understand its special significance, the scale model provided some sense of its interior.

We are very solid in our Catholic faith but fully respect all others so we rarely get into uncomfortable situations over religion. I enjoy focusing on the similarities between religions, usually more enlightening than arguing differences.

The only negative talk we heard was from a couple who said their daughter had some difficulty in High School because of some form of LDS pressure but it sounded no worse than any other peer pressure at that age. Better to be nagged about religion than drugs or sex.
 
Holy Mother Church is a hospital for sinners, not the police; what she does have is a commission to evangelize with charity. Which is what we are doing here.
Most are, yes…and then there is this guy…
 
catherder,
The Church also has the job of keeping the flock in the truth and light. That means preaching about the constant lies and heresies that the mormons teach.
Yep, I keep running into these guys, too. (it might be a good idea to go over the forum rules, m’friend.)
 
LOL! No the visit was very pleasant and non-controversial. I have a particular love of religious architecture, it tends to be the most magnificent of all genre. I thoroughly enjoyed the interior of the Assembly Hall while my wife was thrilled by the Tabernacle interior, most recognizable thanks to the choir broadcasts and we were in time to hear an impromptu Organ recital. What more could we wish for? I would have loved to have seen the Temple interior but I understand its special significance, the scale model provided some sense of its interior.

We are very solid in our Catholic faith but fully respect all others so we rarely get into uncomfortable situations over religion. I enjoy focusing on the similarities between religions, usually more enlightening than arguing differences.

The only negative talk we heard was from a couple who said their daughter had some difficulty in High School because of some form of LDS pressure but it sounded no worse than any other peer pressure at that age. Better to be nagged about religion than drugs or sex.
I’m very glad to hear you had a nice time. Did you go to the “prairie garden” on the roof of the Conference Center? That’s an interesting place, too.
 
How can we call ourselves a Catholic site when we are a fine and dandy with mormons criticizing the Church… a guy has the right to speak his mind especially about a church that doesn’t respect or give recognition to my Church.
 
How can we call ourselves a Catholic site when we are a fine and dandy with mormons criticizing the Church… a guy has the right to speak his mind especially about a church that doesn’t respect or give recognition to my Church.
The Catholic Church is the full deposit of faith in Christ. There are many, many churches that disagree with that premise. It is not the position of the Catholic Church to respond to their claims; however, it is our job to proclaim the truth. That is done best by emulating Jesus Christ who sat among the publicans and sinners and loved them. Through his love and his message they followed him. If we seek to be successful, we must emulate his example. The things others say is meaningless; turn the other cheek and glorify God that you have been chosen to suffer with Him.
 
I know I sound like a lunatic ranting and raving but…it just gets me mad that they can just go and lie to these people and take them from the church…but idk
 
Wow, 57 posts deleted.
Lets start over and see if we can observe charity in our postings this time.


**Oh, and before the nastygrams start coming in, both Catholics and Mormons need to start obeying forum rules on charity and proselytizing **
 
This news article quotes Alaska Mission President Don Clark:

As a former LDS missionary, I’m flabbergasted by this statement. When I was a missionary in Taiwan, President Ezra Taft Benson visited for our mission conference. During his talk he said “We are not here to convert the Buddhists. We are here to convert the Protestants and the Catholics.”

Your thoughts?
It could be a change in their approach. Door to door never worked when I was evangelical, and I’m sure its just as ineffective for other religions. Perhaps they are becoming more liberal in how they view other religions.
 
It could be a change in their approach. Door to door never worked when I was evangelical, and I’m sure its just as ineffective for other religions. Perhaps they are becoming more liberal in how they view other religions.
I have minimal experience trying to convert anyone but it appears to me:

Trying to convert someone who has faith in a specific religion such as Catholicism, LDS any of the Anglo Protestant denominations Buddhism etc. is going to be tough, they wouldn’t be in those religions unless they believed they had the true religion;

the best candidates for conversion would appear to be the non-denominational folks who belong to bible churches for example or those with no particular religion at all but are not Atheist.
 
I have minimal experience trying to convert anyone but it appears to me:

Trying to convert someone who has faith in a specific religion such as Catholicism, LDS any of the Anglo Protestant denominations Buddhism etc. is going to be tough, they wouldn’t be in those religions unless they believed they had the true religion;

the best candidates for conversion would appear to be the non-denominational folks who belong to bible churches for example or those with no particular religion at all but are not Atheist.
The religious background of many people is also major factor. At least at one time in this country, one’s religious makeup was connected to their family and culture. To ask somebody to abandon that is, for many, like turning their backs on their family, heritage, culture, ect.
 
I have minimal experience trying to convert anyone but it appears to me:

Trying to convert someone who has faith in a specific religion such as Catholicism, LDS any of the Anglo Protestant denominations Buddhism etc. is going to be tough, they wouldn’t be in those religions unless they believed they had the true religion;

the best candidates for conversion would appear to be the non-denominational folks who belong to bible churches for example or those with no particular religion at all but are not Atheist.
I think trying to convert any person of strong faith would be hard and a general waste of time,
even non-denomination folks. The faithful are innoculated against these attacks

I think conversions come from people who are lapsed in their faith,
and people going door to door are fishing for these lost souls.
 
The religious background of many people is also major factor. At least at one time in this country, one’s religious makeup was connected to their family and culture. To ask somebody to abandon that is, for many, like turning their backs on their family, heritage, culture, ect.
Yes, you are correct, I forgot my own experience. I participate in some Gospel Bluegrass events and do come across people with long family traditions who would never consider converting. They are generally wonderful, deeply religious, sincere people and, so far, have not shown any animosity toward me as a Catholic but they would have no part of Catholicism.
 
I think conversions come from people who are lapsed in their faith,
and people going door to door are fishing for these lost souls.
And are they trying to convince them to return to the faith from which they lapsed? Or trying ‘fish’ for converts to their own religion?
 
This news article quotes Alaska Mission President Don Clark:

As a former LDS missionary, I’m flabbergasted by this statement. When I was a missionary in Taiwan, President Ezra Taft Benson visited for our mission conference. During his talk he said “We are not here to convert the Buddhists. We are here to convert the Protestants and the Catholics.”

Your thoughts?
First of all, Clark is a branch president not a mission president based on the article. I think there is a big difference between the two: one is focused on a small congregation and another is a leader over just missionaries. They have different agendas. In addition, the message is clear that he is talking about the older missionaries. Do older couples just do service missions or do they also proselyte?
 
Yes, you are correct, I forgot my own experience. I participate in some Gospel Bluegrass events and do come across people with long family traditions who would never consider converting. They are generally wonderful, deeply religious, sincere people and, so far, have not shown any animosity toward me as a Catholic but they would have no part of Catholicism.
Yeah, them ‘good ole boys’😃 who put on thier ‘go to meetin’’ clothes on Sunday to ‘hear the preacher’ is coming from a totally different mindset and church culture. Even if the church is not hostile to the RCC, for him, it’s a different world. Generations of conditioning have produced this. His father was ________, his father was a ________. It’s like a science fiction story of two planets who have been at war for so long they no longer remember the reason why or even know what the “enemy” looks like.
 
And are they trying to convince them to return to the faith from which they lapsed? Or trying ‘fish’ for converts to their own religion?
If they are thinking of God and reading the bible, they are opening up to the Holy Spirit to guide them.
Thus, I would speculate that visiting missionaries have spurred many a person to return to their home faith.
I hope any missionary would see this as a good thing.
 
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