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hs_hopeful
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Is this something that can happen to all faithful MOrmons, or only men?
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ProdglArchitect
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From my understanding, according to Mormon theology certain men will become gods and rule over their own planet/plane of existence/universe…not really sure which. Women can be wives of these gods, but cannot be goddesses themselves.
(Note, this understanding is based on my personal study, which isn’t the most in-depth.)
This is, of course, in direct contradiction to Christian teaching… and basic logic… because it claims not only that there are multiple gods, but that there is an infinite eternal line of gods going back into the past. This is a logical impossibility because any sequence of events requires a starting point, otherwise the sequence wouldn’t exist.
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jane_doe
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Answering this from the LDS perspective –
For starters, it is important to stess that no one “becomes” God, as in no one replaces God. God will always be our God. Rather, we have the potential to become like God, in the way that every child has the potential to become like thier parent. Here’s a really good site on the matter lds.org/topics/becoming-like-god?lang=eng
Now, who is this advailable to? Every individual whom accepts God’s True Gospel, male or female, whether that acceptance comes in this life or the next. It is not a male-only thing, in fact no male alone can recieve exhalation, neither can a woman alone recieve exhalation. Why? Because the man is not without the woman, nor the woman without the man (1 Corinthians 11:11). Exhalation is for married couple (whether that marriage comes in this life or the next).
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Sarcelle
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Do you mean exaltation and not exhalation?
Now what happens to a faithful Mormon single? Do they go to hell for failure to get married?
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jane_doe
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Darn auto-correct! Yes, I meant exaltation.
Everyone one whom is worthy will have the opportunity to have a spouse. By “worthy” I’m referring to those whom can honor such a divine commitment, because obviously some people can’t and would rather love sin (such as a wife beater).
As to the fate of the non-exalted: in Mormon theology God is immensely forgiving and generous. Our final estate is not a binary heaven/hell, but a place of many different mansions and bodies. God wants to give the most He can to every individual, as much as our love of sin allows Him to. (Abridging my answe here) Non-exalted people still get to enjoy a wonderful existence with God, it is just lesser than those whom are exalted.
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Sarcelle
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twopekinguys
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This is where the mormons do the posthumous “sealings” of people to spouses, like St. Fr. Damien of Florida, St. Pope JPII, etc.
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Padres1969
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Wait… LDS posthumously seal people to spouses as well as baptism for the dead?
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jane_doe
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Speaking from the LDS perspective here–
Yes, all the essential rites are done: baptism, confirmation, priesthood (if male), endowments, sealing to spouse (if known), and sealing to parents/children (if known/applicable).
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lax16
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What about Mormon women that are not married but are very nice people? What happens to them?
What about the Mormon couples I know that the husband was abusive after a temple marriage? What happens to the women in those situations?
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lax16
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What about sealing two people in marriage that were celibate/single by choice? For example, Mother Theresa to St. John Paul II.
Why is that done?
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jane_doe
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A person whom has no spouse in this life has no sealing done.
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twopekinguys
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You forgot to add sealing to a spouse they never knew. Again, Fr. St. Damien of Hawaii, and I believe even Anne Frank. Hitler was sealed to Eva Braun, even though by all accounts, they were not married.
archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/news/ci_13546142
Here is the baptism info on JP II facebook.com/notes/utah-lighthouse-ministry/lds-continue-to-baptize-poph-john-paul-ii/234930584988/
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Horton
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My understanding is single, never married women posthumously get sealed to men as a plural wife since polygamy is acceptable in LDS heaven.
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jane_doe
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If people are being stupid and doing dealings they aren’t supposed to… what do you want me to say? Yes, people can be royally stupid sometimes.
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lax16
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Newest Catholic saint baptized and ‘sealed’ to wife in LDS temple?
By Kristen Moulton
The Salt Lake Tribune
Published October 12, 2009 5:26 pm
Father Damien, the Roman Catholic priest who cared for lepers in Hawaii in the 19th century, apparently is a saint twice over.
Damien, who was born Joseph De Veuster in Belgium, was canonized a saint by Pope Benedict XVI on Sunday in Rome.
But Helen Radkey, a critic of the Salt Lake City-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said Monday that research shows Mormons have both baptized Damien by proxy and “sealed” him for eternity to a wife named Marie Damien.
There is no evidence Damien ever married, which would have been a violation of his vow of celibacy.
St. Damien, who died of leprosy in 1889 after working among those quarantined on the Hawaiian island of Molokai for 16 years, is considered an intercessor for patients with leprosy (Hansen’s disease), HIV, AIDS as well as for abandoned children, disoriented youths, exploited women, neglected elderly people and oppressed minorities.
The Catholic Church declares a person to be a saint – or a model for the faithful and a person who has special pull with God in answer to prayers – only after extensive investigation and proof of two miracles.
Radkey said research into the LDS Church’s FamilySearch database indicates that Damien, born in 1840 in Belgium, was baptized by proxy, given his “endowments” and sealed to his parents for eternity Oct. 22, 1983, in the Los Angeles Temple.
More recently, Damien was sealed to a wife, which Radkey calls “bogus,” on March 15, 2000, at the Jordan River Temple in South Jordan.
“It’s blatantly wrong to seal a person who took a vow of celibacy as a Catholic priest and is so revered in his Catholic religion,” said Radkey, a former Catholic. “It’s insulting to perform such an action posthumously. It’s very disrespectful.”
LDS Church spokesman Scott Trotter said he could not comment on the specifics of Radkey’s claim, which echoes her previous reports that Mormons have performed ordinances for President Barack Obama’s mother, Holocaust victims and fundamentalist polygamists who were booted from the church.
“It is counter to church policy to submit anyone’s name for temple ordinances if you aren’t related to that person,” Trotter said. “The church reiterates this policy regularly and we follow it to the best of our ability.”
LDS doctrine holds that baptisms and other ordinances performed by the living in temples are offered to those who have died, who are free in the afterlife to accept or reject them.
archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/news/ci_13546142
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lax16
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Is this the answer to my questions?
What about Mormon women that are not married but are very nice people? What happens to them?
What about the Mormon couples I know that the husband was abusive after a temple marriage? What happens to the women in those situations?
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jane_doe
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God is infinitely fair and just: everyone will have the opportunity to have a spouse. Those whom do not properly honor God and/or thier spouse will loose thier marriage. The particulars of how new spouses are found (for the never married or the to-be-remarried) is not revealed to us at this time. I personally don’t go into “100% speculation territory” on a public forum.
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lax16
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Are you saying that the LDS church does not have an official teaching as to what happens to nice women who never marry?
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jane_doe
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Not that I’m aware of. It’s a fundamental LDS tennet that there is much of God’s magnificence yet to be revealed
(And there also nice men who have not married in this life too)
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