LDS and "Heavenly Father"

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For two reasons. First mormons believe that Heavenly Father is the literal Father of us all in the ‘prexistence’.

Second they are very hesitant to use the word God, since they do not believe in only one God.
They prefer Heavenly Father since they find it more reverent than “God” which in modern times is used as often as an expletive as in worship. Also, Jesus taught us to pray beginning “Our father who art in heaven” and many Christians, including and not limited to Mormons, feel that “Heavenly Father” is the closest modern parlance to “our father who art in heaven.”
 
The Our Father prayer starts “Our Father who art in Heaven”. To me there is no distinction in meaning between that and “Heavenly Father”.
Agree with gazelam. This is what I first thought of when I saw the post. I don’t think there is much to it other than tradition. I don’t ever remember being taught that I should specifically use “Heavenly Father” when praying. I’ve seen LDS begin a prayer with something else, and I’ve seen Catholic priests use “Heavenly Father.” No big deal to me.
Given Hebrews 12:9 (straight out of the USCCB website…) Besides this, we have had our earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them. Should we not [then] submit all the more to the Father of spirits and live?

What other interpretation could there possibly be other than Heavenly Father is the actual father of our spirits?
You know better…I could pull a list of verses from the Book of Mormon and quotes from Joseph Smith that contradict the current LDS view of God and ask the same question - “what other interpretation could there possibly be other than…?”
 
Given Hebrews 12:9 (straight out of the USCCB website…) Besides this, we have had our earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them. Should we not [then] submit all the more to the Father of spirits and live?

What other interpretation could there possibly be other than Heavenly Father is the actual father of our spirits?
**5 You have also forgotten the exhortation addressed to you as sons: “My son, do not disdain the discipline of the Lord or lose heart when reproved by him; 6 for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines; he scourges every son he acknowledges.”

7 Endure your trials as “discipline”; God treats you as sons. For what “son” is there whom his father does not discipline? 8 If you are without discipline, in which all have shared, you are not sons but bastards. 9 Besides this, we have had our earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them. Should we not [then] submit all the more to the Father of spirits and live? 10They disciplined us for a short time as seemed right to them, but he does so for our benefit, in order that we may share his holiness.**

A little more context of the verse gazelam quotes. Rather than a “proof” we are “spirit children” of the LDS heavenly father, it speaks to God, the Father and slavation.
 
Given Hebrews 12:9 (straight out of the USCCB website…) Besides this, we have had our earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them. Should we not [then] submit all the more to the Father of spirits and live?

What other interpretation could there possibly be other than Heavenly Father is the actual father of our spirits?
We are made spirit children of God, by adoption (in and through Jesus), not by divine copulation of a “Heavenly Father” and “Heavenly Mother”.

Context, is indeed everything. Our sonship (and daughters too of course) is clearly described throughout the New Testament as one of adoption. YOU read into that verse something that isn’t there as as to come to a Mormon idea of what you think it would say, and should say, if only you modify it just a bit with outside ideas…and call it “restored”. :rolleyes:
 
Why do the LDS use this term? It’s not something I often read outside LDS sources and comments on forums.
The central doctrine of Mormonism is exaltation, and the God they worship is an exalted male human who lives in a place called heaven. Literally, a place that exists somewhere in space and time, i.e., our universe. There, this “Father in Heaven” is married to a “Mother in Heaven”, and they have together “spirit children”. These spirit children took on physical bodies, metaphorically like a hand slipped into a glove, and now live among us, calling themselves “Mormons”. Prior to becoming a “Father in Heaven”, this God was a human who became a God (i.e., a created being). All that is incorporated into the Mormon phrase, “Father in Heaven”.

There are no similar ideas/beliefs in Catholicism. Even when/if a similar phrase is used by Catholics, the meaning is entirely and absolutely different. Our Father, who art in heaven, is referencing a Person of the Holy Trinity, who is spirt, who is one in being with the Son and Holy Spirit, and has no beginning or end. “Heaven”, not being a created place in the universe but really, undefined, and not believed to be in space or time.
 
So in short Mormons use the term “heavenly father” for precisely the same reason that some Catholics and many Protestants use it, but it’s a nice point of departure for making snide remarks about LDS doctrine and using lots of “scare quotes.” 👍
 
So in short Mormons use the term “heavenly father” for precisely the same reason that some Catholics and many Protestants use it, but it’s a nice point of departure for making snide remarks about LDS doctrine and using lots of “scare quotes.” 👍
If you are responding to me, I did not use quotes to scare anyone.

Quoting a nickname is proper usage of quote/end quote. The difference of usage of the terms between Catholic and LDS makes LDS usage, from a Catholic POV, a nickname.

But this has nothing to do with what I said, just a pointless diversion.
 
So in short Mormons use the term “heavenly father” for precisely the same reason that some Catholics and many Protestants use it, but it’s a nice point of departure for making snide remarks about LDS doctrine and using lots of “scare quotes.” 👍
Gee, I didn’t get that at all from the question that started this thread. No need to play the persecution card so soon.

I took the question to mean why do the Latter Day Saints use the term “Heavenly Father” so much more than other terms for God. And as a corollary why do we tend to use other terms like God or Eternal Father so much less so. Yes, I am aware that there are times those terms are used, such as the sacrament prayer. But think about any gospel doctrine class or priesthood meeting or relief society meeting or casual conversation among Mormons. The term Heavenly Father is used almost exclusively.

As to why that is, which appears to be an honest question rather than a pretext for Mormon bashing, it’s because of the teachings about the nature of God and his role in fathering us as spirit children in the pre-existence. Right or wrong, that is most decidedly not the same reason that a catholic or Protestant would use the term.
 
I occassionally hear someone in the RCC refer to God as “Our Heavenly Father”. Because I still bear the scars of Mormonism, I am viscerally revulsed when I hear it. That is a shame, because without the LDS overtones it is a rather nice description for God.
 
I occassionally hear someone in the RCC refer to God as “Our Heavenly Father”. Because I still bear the scars of Mormonism, I am viscerally revulsed when I hear it. That is a shame, because without the LDS overtones it is a rather nice description for God.
This has actually been a big struggle for me since leaving the LDS church for Catholicism. I feel like I’m caught in between - like I’m trying too hard when praying differently than LDS but feel like I can’t let go when I trend towards the standard LDS prayer.

What’s really awkward for me is when I’m asked to pray at a family function when all know that I’ve taken my family out of the LDS church (although I don’t know if they know I was recently baptized Catholic). I feel like a phony when I give the “traditional” LDS prayer.
 
This has actually been a big struggle for me since leaving the LDS church for Catholicism. I feel like I’m caught in between - like I’m trying too hard when praying differently than LDS but feel like I can’t let go when I trend towards the standard LDS prayer.

What’s really awkward for me is when I’m asked to pray at a family function when all know that I’ve taken my family out of the LDS church (although I don’t know if they know I was recently baptized Catholic). I feel like a phony when I give the “traditional” LDS prayer.
Do you fold your arms or your hands? 😉

I will never, EVER fold my arms when I pray. It feels like sacrilege.
 
Do you fold your arms or your hands? 😉

I will never, EVER fold my arms when I pray. It feels like sacrilege.
Same here. I fold them when praying publicly (amongst LDS) but can’t stand it. Privately I pray hands together pointing up.
 
Same here. I fold them when praying publicly (amongst LDS) but can’t stand it. Privately I pray hands together pointing up.
Folded arms just doesn’t say praying to me. I remember when PBS had the show about the Mormons, it was on but the TV was muted it had a scene with a family in the kitchen, the teens were standing with their arms folded and to me it looked like sullen teenagers being talked to by parent(s) who were sitting at the table. Most of the parents I’ve talked to see folded arms as showing attitude. It actually does come up in conversation this time of year because our jr. high spring pictures always have a full body picture and the kids have their arms folded, they look cocky and defiant:D
 
Folded arms just doesn’t say praying to me. I remember when PBS had the show about the Mormons, it was on but the TV was muted it had a scene with a family in the kitchen, the teens were standing with their arms folded and to me it looked like sullen teenagers being talked to by parent(s) who were sitting at the table. Most of the parents I’ve talked to see folded arms as showing attitude. It actually does come up in conversation this time of year because our jr. high spring pictures always have a full body picture and the kids have their arms folded, they look cocky and defiant:D
I agree. My wife is fascinated with Sister Wives and My Five Wives on TV, but I have a hard time watching when they pray. It’s the exact same form as a Mormon prayer, and it makes me uncomfortable. The folding arms and “Dear Heavenly Father…” feels very cultish to me now.
 
I occassionally hear someone in the RCC refer to God as “Our Heavenly Father”. Because I still bear the scars of Mormonism, I am viscerally revulsed when I hear it. That is a shame, because without the LDS overtones it is a rather nice description for God.
I, too, have major problems with addressing God the Father as “Heavenly Father” due to the connotations in the LDS church. Maybe someday I will get over it. It is a shame.
 
Do you fold your arms or your hands? 😉

I will never, EVER fold my arms when I pray. It feels like sacrilege.
Me too! I will never fold my arms again to pray. I will usually fold my hands to pray but I also keep them flat and pointed up at Mass or when I pray with my children. My mother was so good at teaching them to pray Mormon style, I had a hard time of breaking them of folding their arms at first, but now they don’t fold their arms.
 
I occassionally hear someone in the RCC refer to God as “Our Heavenly Father”. Because I still bear the scars of Mormonism, I am viscerally revulsed when I hear it. That is a shame, because without the LDS overtones it is a rather nice description for God.
I, too, have major problems with addressing God the Father as “Heavenly Father” due to the connotations in the LDS church. Maybe someday I will get over it. It is a shame.
Same for me, until I prayed in our Blessed Sacrament chapel.

The Father reveals the Son, just as the Son reveals the Father.

Don’t let old Mormon stuff keep you from Our Father.
 
Same for me, until I prayed in our Blessed Sacrament chapel.

The Father reveals the Son, just as the Son reveals the Father.

Don’t let old Mormon stuff keep you from Our Father.
Thanks for this. I even started getting weepy, which I don’t like to do but cannot seem to stop since I had babies.

Before I was baptized, I was getting really good with coming up with all kinds of adjectives to use instead of heavenly. Now I just call Him “My Father”. 🙂
 
Thanks for this. I even started getting weepy, which I don’t like to do but cannot seem to stop since I had babies.

Before I was baptized, I was getting really good with coming up with all kinds of adjectives to use instead of heavenly. Now I just call Him “My Father”. 🙂
Hormones are fun!! 😃

I had, at first, a hard time just saying “Father” in prayer. I very much preferred praying to Jesus only in my private prayers. I told myself, the Father hears my prayers anyway, which is sound doctrine, but not a good excuse to avoid praying to our Father, who is in heaven.

My Father works. 🙂 he knows your heart and understands your trials. It is God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, who heals us.

Peace be with you.
 
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