LDS church publishes an article teaching about Lent

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jane_doe said:
Important thing to note: this article is not published by the LDS church. Rather, it is a blog entry by a person whom is LDS.
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Are you saying the blog entry is a misrepresentation of what the LDS Church would teach from its nonprofit websites?
 
RebeccaJ said:
Are you saying the blog entry is a misrepresentation of what the LDS Church would teach from its nonprofit websites?
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I’m saying don’t pretend that the author is the LDS church when it’s not.
 
RebeccaJ said:
Is the author misrepresenting the LDS Church?
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This is the question. If the statements had remained some blogger’s opinion and not republished by an LDS magazine this wouldn’t even an issue. I’m sure if one searched enough they would be able to find a multitude of blogs/forums/opinions of individual LDS with anti-Catholic sentiments. This particular blog WAS republished by an LDS magazine. Kind of gives it the LDS seal of approval.
 
From the article:
“We believe that we should always be repenting of sins we commit, and continually working on overcoming our vices. We do not believe in the idea that the church should pick a day you are required to repent on, we believe in repenting daily and weekly partaking of the Sacrament. we believe that doing this not only renews all of our covenants we have made with God, but it is the only way to renew any of our covenants”.

I agree with this, but I also celebrate Ash Wednesday with the placement of ashes on my forehead by a pastor at my church.

While I am not Catholic, I don’t see why Ash Wednesday and a continual repentance of sins we commit have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, I think they complement one another quite nicely.

Ash Wednesday helps reinforce our need for repentance and mercy in a positive and memorable way. I see that as a positive and not a negative.
 
Tommy999 said:
From the article:
“We believe that we should always be repenting of sins we commit, and continually working on overcoming our vices. We do not believe in the idea that the church should pick a day you are required to repent on, we believe in repenting daily and weekly partaking of the Sacrament. we believe that doing this not only renews all of our covenants we have made with God, but it is the only way to renew any of our covenants”.

I agree with this, but I also celebrate Ash Wednesday with the placement of ashes on my forehead by a pastor at my church.

While I am not Catholic, I don’t see why Ash Wednesday and a continual repentance of sins we commit have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, I think they complement one another quite nicely.

Ash Wednesday helps reinforce our need for repentance and mercy in a positive and memorable way. I see that as a positive and not a negative.
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^^^This. The article implies Catholics are ONLY repentant on Ash Wednesday and not on any other day. I guess they missed the part of Mass, offered daily around the world, where we call to mind our sins and ask God for forgiveness. They also missed the part where Catholics actually have two penitential seasons, Lent & Advent, where we seek to come closer to God. Another missed part, the at least weekly opportunity for reconciliation in most parishes.

Kind of blows that theory out of the water.
 
Horton said:
^^^This. **The article implies Catholics are ONLY repentant on Ash Wednesday and not on any other day. **I guess they missed the part of Mass, offered daily around the world, where we call to mind our sins and ask God for forgiveness. They also missed the part where Catholics actually have two penitential seasons, Lent & Advent, where we seek to come closer to God. Another missed part, the at least weekly opportunity for reconciliation in most parishes.

Kind of blows that theory out of the water.
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Right, Horton. That was the point I was trying to convey.

It’s like someone saying, “We don’t celebrate Christmas because we believe we should celebrate Christ’s presence in our lives every day” or “We don’t celebrate Easter because we should commemorate Jesus’ death every day”. Yes, we should, but having a special day to commemorate these special events doesn’t preclude us from doing the other, as well. They are not mutually exclusive and should be seen as complimentary in nature, in my view.
 
zaffiroborant said:
But a church owned magazine did a write up and posted a link, so the LDS church through it’s company endorsed it.
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The curiosity about an LDS-oriented magazine having an article about Lent is legitimate, but this thread has turned silly with insistence that the LDS Church is some how making an official pronouncement.

The LDS Church also owns Arizona Sports radio 98.7 FM through its holding company Bonneville International. The radio’s website is running a story about a prediction that the Arizona Cardinals are going to the Super Bowl next year.

arizonasports.com/story/551721/nfl-network-insider-picks-arizona-cardinals-to-get-to-super-bowl-li/

Are you saying that the LDS Church is formally declaring that the Arizona Cardinals are Super Bowl contenders?

LDSLiving specifically states on its website at ldsliving.com/about_us

LDS Living Magazine is an independent work, and is not an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The views expressed in the magazine are the responsibility of the various authors and do not necessarily represent the positions of the Church. Contributors include Church members and members of other faiths.
 
gazelam said:
The curiosity about an LDS-oriented magazine having an article about Lent is legitimate, but this thread has turned silly with insistence that the LDS Church is some how making an official pronouncement.

The LDS Church also owns Arizona Sports radio 98.7 FM through its holding company Bonneville International. The radio’s website is running a story about a prediction that the Arizona Cardinals are going to the Super Bowl next year.

arizonasports.com/story/551721/nfl-network-insider-picks-arizona-cardinals-to-get-to-super-bowl-li/

Are you saying that the LDS Church is formally declaring that the Arizona Cardinals are Super Bowl contenders?

LDSLiving specifically states on its website at ldsliving.com/about_us

LDS Living Magazine is an independent work, and is not an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The views expressed in the magazine are the responsibility of the various authors and do not necessarily represent the positions of the Church. Contributors include Church members and members of other faiths.
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Indeed. It’s pretty clear that this isn’t an official LDS blog or position. Only thing I can find on the official LDS website referring to Lent is on their Easter section. And in it they only state.

“Latter-day Saints conduct Easter Sunday services but do not follow the religious observances of Ash Wednesday, Lent, or Holy Week.”
 
Tommy999 said:
From the article:
“We believe that we should always be repenting of sins we commit, and continually working on overcoming our vices. We do not believe in the idea that the church should pick a day you are required to repent on, we believe in repenting daily and weekly partaking of the Sacrament. we believe that doing this not only renews all of our covenants we have made with God, but it is the only way to renew any of our covenants”.

I agree with this, but I also celebrate Ash Wednesday with the placement of ashes on my forehead by a pastor at my church.

While I am not Catholic, I don’t see why Ash Wednesday and a continual repentance of sins we commit have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, I think they complement one another quite nicely.

Ash Wednesday helps reinforce our need for repentance and mercy in a positive and memorable way. I see that as a positive and not a negative.
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We believe that we should always be repenting of sins we commit, and continually working on overcoming our vices. We do not believe in the idea that the church should pick a day you are required to repent on, we believe in repenting daily
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It’s quite obvious from the blog that the author is saying LDS repent continually but Catholics only repent on Ash Wednesday. The whole thing is filled with these sorts of implications.
 
jane_doe said:
I’m saying don’t pretend that the author is the LDS church when it’s not.
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LDSLiving is a division of Deseret Book, which is owned by Deseret Management Corporation, which is owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. A magazine owned by the church decided it was a good idea to publish a sneering article on Lent and Catholicism, LDSLiving sought out this mess and felt it was a GOOD thing to publish. That The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints turns a blind eye to mocking other religions in it’s own publishing entities speaks volumes.
 
gazelam said:
The curiosity about an LDS-oriented magazine having an article about Lent is legitimate, but this thread has turned silly with insistence that the LDS Church is some how making an official pronouncement.

The LDS Church also owns Arizona Sports radio 98.7 FM through its holding company Bonneville International. The radio’s website is running a story about a prediction that the Arizona Cardinals are going to the Super Bowl next year.

arizonasports.com/story/551721/nfl-network-insider-picks-arizona-cardinals-to-get-to-super-bowl-li/

Are you saying that the LDS Church is formally declaring that the Arizona Cardinals are Super Bowl contenders?

LDSLiving specifically states on its website at ldsliving.com/about_us

LDS Living Magazine is an independent work, and is not an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The views expressed in the magazine are the responsibility of the various authors and do not necessarily represent the positions of the Church. Contributors include Church members and members of other faiths.
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Do sports radio listeners tune in for spiritual advice, do they look to sports radio for information on other faiths? Do they look to them for daily guidance in understanding those outside their own faith.

Maybe the leaders of your church should take more care in what is published by their holdings when the purpose of those holdings are guidance, teaching and spiritual development of the members. I’d bet money that the church goes to great efforts to insure that all broadcast holdings tow the line on language, and PG-13 or better content.

The leadership of your church is speaking out of both sides of their mouth here, “respect the beliefs of others unless you are publishing demeaning content about other religions, that’s okay”.

By the way here is what the purported mission of Deseret Management Corporation is, does the screed that LDSLiving published fit the claim? Is it a trustworthy voice in light and knowledge when it distorts the belief and practice of another religion?
Deseret Management Corp., the for-profit arm of The Church of Jesus-Christ of Latter-day Saints, has unveiled a new mission statement.
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Mark Willes, president and chief executive officer of DMC, unveiled the mission statement during a daylong meeting Thursday of managers of the various media companies: KSL Television and Radio, Deseret Book, Deseret News and the newly created Deseret Digital Media.
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The mission is summarized as: “We are trusted voices of light and knowledge reaching hundreds of millions of people.”
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“There are some who would say that you’re just this little, teeny Utah-based company, how can you possibly have that ambition?” Willes says. “But what’s interesting is that the values we have are shared worldwide. Many of the issues that we deal with are nationwide, and in some cases worldwide, and so if we can do an absolutely fabulous job talking about those issues, explaining those issues, telling stories that are compelling, we believe it’ll not only be of interest not only in our local market but, on occasion, literally around the world.”
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Horton said:
^^^This. The article implies Catholics are ONLY repentant on Ash Wednesday and not on any other day. I guess they missed the part of Mass, offered daily around the world, where we call to mind our sins and ask God for forgiveness. They also missed the part where Catholics actually have two penitential seasons, Lent & Advent, where we seek to come closer to God. Another missed part, the at least weekly opportunity for reconciliation in most parishes.

Kind of blows that theory out of the water.
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Thanks for pointing that out. And, not only that, Catholics who desire to grow deeper in prayer to the Lord make an examination of conscience every evening, and a resolution to do better by His grace. The ideal is to repent daily as a part of our daily renewal in the Lord.
 
Horton said:
^^^This. The article implies Catholics are ONLY repentant on Ash Wednesday and not on any other day. I guess they missed the part of Mass, offered daily around the world, where we call to mind our sins and ask God for forgiveness. They also missed the part where Catholics actually have two penitential seasons, Lent & Advent, where we seek to come closer to God. Another missed part, the at least weekly opportunity for reconciliation in most parishes.

Kind of blows that theory out of the water.
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I have heard comments from Mormons like this for years. We also commit sin all week and then go to confession on Saturdays.

I was also told by a Mormon that the Catholic Church sponsors Mardi Gras in New Orleans and condones all of the rowdy behavior in preparation for Lent.

Never bothered to check the facts.
 
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