LDS church publishes an article teaching about Lent

[TexanKnight]

If I were an auditor and wanted to do assurance testing that a donation was properly recorded, I would give the donor a piece of paper with a list of all donations and ask if it was accurate. That is an accounting. The bishop does pretty much the same thing.

Those old questions on the CPA exam were useful after all.

Yet you seem upset God does it. I think I owe God more than I owe others. But that is just me.

Again…they know what I pay…they do not know what I make. They ask if what I paid is a full tithe. I answer Just like I did the Catholic Priests when they asked if I followed the commandments

I guess those law exams were useful after all

I am not saying you have to tithe. We know what God has commanded. We know them all. We know how to justify doing them, or not doing them.

People can choose which they wish to follow…

For me and my house, we will follow The Lord.

 

[iepuras]

Yes…you used what I used to use. I was being passive aggressive. That means…

Yes…I thought I answered. ** I said I am never asked to give a number accounting. ** I am asked if what I paid was a full tithe. I ask for my settlement paper so I can have it for tax purposes. I did the same when I was Catholic.

The Bishop knows what I have paid…he asks if it is a full tithe. I say yes.

The Bishop does exactly what my Priest used to do. I am asked if I am following the commandments.

Please see the bolder and then review the bottom of post #123. You said you were never asked to give an accounting. But tithing settlement is an accounting. It just isn’t a full blown audit.

 

[Stephen168]

I am truly hopeful the “victim” card is not being played.

I understand that Mormons need to play victim,…

There is truly no need to play victim here

So do not play the victim…

Again, you are playing victim.

If you truly want to be the victim, then I will let you be the victim.

There is truly no need to play the victim.

 

[TexanKnight]

Please see the bolder and then review the bottom of post #123. You said you were never asked to give an accounting. But tithing settlement is an accounting. It just isn’t a full blown audit.

What I meant was…I am not asked to give what I make to prove it is a full tithing. So, to me, it is not a full accounting. I am given my amounts I can use for my taxes and asked if I paid a full tithing. It is God’s anyway. At least that is what I believe. I believe God deserves it. Again…that is just me

 

[iepuras]

You seem to act like if you comply with one commandment, you can ignore others. Yes…we are to care for our brothers and sisters.

We are to tithe.

Nowhere does it say that if you do one you can ignore the other.

Again…God has richly blessed me…giving God his commanded 10% is a privilege. So is helping and doing to the least. So is following His other commandments. I do not tell God, “God…I did 6 commandments already, so I can do less of the others.”

Nope. That is another one of your false assumptions.

 

[iepuras]

Yet you seem upset God does it. I think I owe God more than I owe others. But that is just me.

Again…they know what I pay…they do not know what I make. They ask if what I paid is a full tithe. I answer Just like I did the Catholic Priests when they asked if I followed the commandments

I guess those law exams were useful after all

I am not saying you have to tithe. We know what God has commanded. We know them all. We know how to justify doing them, or not doing them.

People can choose which they wish to follow…

For me and my house, we will follow The Lord.

There you go assuming things wrongly again. Funny that you assume the worst of me. You give Joseph Smith the benefit of the doubt but not me. Is that because I am an apostate?

So do you say “yes” when asked if you follow the commandments? So you think you are “worthy”?

If someone were to ask me if I obey the commandments, I would answer “occasionally”. That is really the most truthful answer.

 

[TexanKnight]

Nope. That is another one of your false assumptions.

Not an assumptions. Just reading what you wrote.

 

[TexanKnight]

There you go assuming things wrongly again. Funny that you assume the worst of me. You give Joseph Smith the benefit of the doubt but not me. Is that because I am an apostate?

So do you say “yes” when asked if you follow the commandments? So you think you are “worthy”?

If someone were to ask me if I obey the commandments, I would answer “occasionally”. That is really the most truthful answer.

My post was not about you…it was about why I do what I do.

And I am never worthy. I just do what I can and follow the commandments…or at least…I try…I may fail…I may fall short…but I try very hard not to pick and choose

 

[lax16]

Same with LDS. I teach Sunday School. We are also home teachers visiting our assigned members each month. the Women are visiting teachers, doing the same. When we moved, the Bishop had 20 people at our house (much to our surprise) to help moving. The LDS Church is verry much into service and time and talent. Also, given our Bishops and other leaders do so for zero money…and our missionaries give 2 years for no pay…it is all about service and giving our time and talents.

See? We have much in common

Maybe they were making up for past transgressions against you and your family.

 

[iepuras]

My post was not about you…it was about why I do what I do.

And I am never worthy. I just do what I can and follow the commandments…or at least…I try…I may fail…I may fall short…but I try very hard not to pick and choose

The first sentence was.

 

[iepuras]

Not an assumptions. Just reading what you wrote.

No, you are reading into what I wrote wrongly. That is making a false assumption.

 

[TexanKnight]

Maybe they were making up for past transgressions against you and your family.

I learned something…I did not blame the Catholic Church for the acts of certain priests…I do not blame the LDS Church for the acts of certain members.

it is only fair.

 

[lax16]

Wrong. If the priest knows…he should not let you. Now…if you are not honest with the priest…then you are taking it wrongly and deceivingly. Your call.

What if I didn’t go to confession? The priest wouldn’t know. Of course people go to communion even in a state of mortal sin. Free will.

You know better than that. I have been back two days. Have I insisted the Catholic Church is wrong? No. I have defended The LDS Church and answered your questions. I have not once said the Catholic is wrong. Not once. I have said I believe I am where the Holy Spirit wants me. I have stated I am in the Church I believe Jesus restarted. When comments have been made, I have showed where our Churches are similar. But I have not once said the Catholic Church is wrong. Nor am I trying to convince anyone of the truth of the LDS Church. I have simply responded to statements and questions.

No, I don’t know better because you are now here at CAF as a Mormon after hundreds of posts spelling out all they did to you and your family and furious because they won’t excavate Cumorah.

Yes, you have said several things the Catholic Church DOES wrong (I never said you said the Catholic Church IS wrong). Indulgences, selling sacraments…

 

[lax16]

I learned something…I did not blame the Catholic Church for the acts of certain priests…I do not blame the LDS Church for the acts of certain members.

it is only fair.

You were personally harmed and threatened and family members kidnapped by Catholic priests?

 

[TexanKnight]

No, you are reading into what I wrote wrongly. That is making a false assumption.

I guess you could blame my reading. Or your writing. Or how the two meshed. It happens on a board.

My assumptions were not false. Wrong, perhaps. But not false. There was nothing dishonest in my assumptions.

 

[TexanKnight]

The first sentence was.

The first sentence was based on your comments about tithing. And I said “seem” which indicates I could be wrong…hence, no assumptions.

 

[TexanKnight]

You were personally harmed and threatened and family members kidnapped by Catholic priests?

Not me…you know to what I referred.

And again…the conduct of members does not mean the Church is false…no matter what Church it is

 

[iepuras]

The first sentence was based on your comments about tithing. And I said “seem” which indicates I could be wrong…hence, no assumptions.

It seems you assume the worst of me. It seems you are unable or unwilling to give me the benefit of the doubt while seemingly giving the benefit of the doubt to Joseph Smith. I don’t seem think you would seemingly write something with out seemingly believing it to a certain extent even when you seemingly admit you might possibly seem wrong. Is it because I am an apostate?

 

[TexanKnight]

It seems you assume the worst of me. It seems you are unable or unwilling to give me the benefit of the doubt while seemingly giving the benefit of the doubt to Joseph Smith. I don’t seem think you would seemingly write something with out seemingly believing it to a certain extent even when you seemingly admit you might possibly seem wrong. Is it because I am an apostate?

Like I said…I had no assumptions. You have tried telling me how wring I am…I have stated my positions. are you an apostate? i never considered it. it seems a bit odd that you came into this conversation telling me I am wrong and then assume I am so awful as to consider you an apostate.

Why do you do that? is it because I left the Catholic Church?

 

[lax16]

Not me…you know to what I referred.

And again…the conduct of members does not mean the Church is false…no matter what Church it is

The conduct of others no longer matters to you? Not the actions of Joseph Smith, or law-breaking polygamists or those not willing to excavate Cumorah?