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1holycatholic
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Do you affirm that an LDS baptism is invalid?
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1holycatholic
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Then you implicitly repudiate Mormonism, for it is impossible to hold to both positions on baptism as they are contradictory.
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rmcmullan
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Let me ask this: if it’s okay to have the Trinity where there is three beings as one, why stop at three?
The whole purpose of this 3=1 claim is to maintain Christianity as monotheistic. If Jesus prays to God and is God, well, that would make two. And the Holy Ghost is three. Now 3=1 and polytheism is now monotheism.
The whole purpose of this 3=1 claim is to maintain Christianity as monotheistic. If Jesus prays to God and is God, well, that would make two. And the Holy Ghost is three. Now 3=1 and polytheism is now monotheism.
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rmcmullan
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What is a species? A species is defined along breeding lines. Across species, there is no reproduction. If different individual representatives of the species look markedly different, this would be a race. Races may breed with one another, species cannot.
Sprirt children yes, but how about physically too? Was Jesus a different species from us?
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1holycatholic
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No, you say so.
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
RESPONSE TO A ‘DUBIUM’
on the validity of baptism conferred by
«The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints»,
called «Mormons»
Question: Wheter the baptism conferred by the community «The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints», called «Mormons» in the vernacular, is valid.
Response: Negative.
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oneGODoneCHURCH
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it is relevant as it shows you can not hold that both are valid if one (or both ) say the other is not. It puts you into opposition with both.
In other words not in true communion.
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AMDGtoo
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See? The LDS causes people to loose their integrity.
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1holycatholic
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:dts:
Mormon baptisms aren’t valid for anybody.
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RC_Matt
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If my understanding of the “Mormon Rite” is correct, you accept the Mormon beliefs that do not conflict with the Catechism. For those beliefs that do conflict, you interpret the Mormon beliefs in such manner that they do not conflict with the Catechism? If that’s the case, albeit via some mental gymnastics, you’re ok by Rome; thought Salt Lake City might have an issue or two…
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1holycatholic
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The LDS does not constitute a Church. Christ established only one Church the Catholic Church and valid baptism is the means of entry into the Church.
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1holycatholic
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It doesn’t matter how you try to spin it, Mormonism and Catholicism are incompatible religions. You can’t be a Catholic (Christian) and a Mormon (non-Christian) at the same time.
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AMDGtoo
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:banghead:
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why_me
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The mormons can make a good case for the plurality of gods based on scripture reference. That was my point. It is all a matter of interpretation. I have said it before: the mormons just don’t pull doctrine out of the air. A lot is scripture based according to interpretation.
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why_me
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No, but to believe that the closer one gets to Jesus, the weaker satan becomes would be a mistake. Many have fallen because they have let their guard down. :knight1:
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why_me
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True, but the lds did take perfection to the extreme in the 1970’s. Now, it is more relaxed. Perfection does not necessarily mean that we all must be perfect as Christ was perfect.
But it can mean that each day we can improve ourselves and work toward holiness or sainthood and a close relationship with christ or if mormon, work toward a closer relationship with heavenly father with christ at the center of life.
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oneGODoneCHURCH
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Yes you coming into the Catholic Church makes you a Christian, But your hold to even some Mormon beliefs and proclaiming that the Mormon faith is valid places you as one if not all of the following:
heretic, blasphemer, and apostate.
I will assume you go to Mass during the Mass you say the Credo.
If you do you are proclaiming thing by this part that prohibit you from also being Mormon. If you have said this and do not believe it it makes you a liar as you do not believe what it says.
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AMDGtoo
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Better idea. It’s obvious that he can’t be reached by reason, sooo since he claims to be Catholic, I’m sure that he wouldn’t object to sitting before the Tabernacle for about 10 minutes every day for at least a month.
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RC_Matt
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Dude, the only way anybody can make a case for polytheism from the Bible is out of gross ignorance, and I mean WAY gross ignorance; gross ignorance to the point where you’re embarrassed FOR them. You can’t just pull isolated “sound bites” out of the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, without a BASIC understanding of the context, the contemporary religious and secular societal structures and practices, the lexicon employed in the text, and the relationships between the different books. Even on very superficial level, do you really think that the Catholic Church (or the Jewish religious establishment from which the O.T. material, “The Sefer Tehillim,” originally came) would canonize scripture that TOTALLY contradicts a (if not THE) major core tenet? Even common sense should tell you otherwise. If Mormons want to believe in a multiplicity of gods based on Joseph Smith’s scripture, that’s cool; but sophomorically maintaining that Jewish and Christian scripture says something that it absolutely does not say doesn’t even rise to the level of ridiculous; and, to say the least, it certainly doesn’t reflect well on the Mormon understanding of Judeo-Christian scripture.
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why_me
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It comes from the King James Version of the bible and not Joseph Smith’s scripture. And that makes all the difference. People are free to interpret the bible in the way they wish. My point: it just didn’t come out of the air. It is in the scriptures and the mormons interpret it the way they do.
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why_me
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Soviet Russia disappeared long ago. In soviet russia, they had an ideology that many embraced. It actually wasn’t such a bad system and many Russians today wish that it were back. They had more time for family and friends in the old system. Now, it is all money, money, and more money.
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