LDS: King Follett Sermon - WOW! WOW! WOW!

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This tells me that LDS is not very different from other cults like scientology that tell people that they too can become like God. Wow…sounds like a character in Genesis that slithered around a bit…you know, Satan!
I do recall a scripture that goes something like this… Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48

a lie you say?

Yeah - we subscribe to it, we even believe it, have faith in it and honestly strive to become like our Father in Heaven?

Break out the tar and feathers for saying it… busted. 👍

One question though - Who are you trying to become like?
 
I do recall a scripture that goes something like this… Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48

a lie you say?

Yeah - we subscribe to it, we even believe it, have faith in it and honestly strive to become like our Father in Heaven?

Break out the tar and feathers for saying it… busted. 👍

One question though - Who are you trying to become like?
 
Vinny “Who is like the Lord our God and looks upon the heavens and the earth below?”. Yourself and Joseph Smith?
 
I do recall a scripture that goes something like this… Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48

a lie you say?

Yeah - we subscribe to it, we even believe it, have faith in it and honestly strive to become like our Father in Heaven?

Break out the tar and feathers for saying it… busted. 👍

One question though - Who are you trying to become like?
Part of God’s perfection is atemporality. How do you plan to become atemporal?
 
dictionary has the word “atemporal” to mean independent of time; timeless
 
🙂 I’m not Mormon and I dont believe like they do but I do Know alot of them and they are beautifull people. If your daughter or son was a mormon would you stop loving them? Would you never let them in your house? are they people or a religion? If only we could treat people as persons rather than a religion,love would abound,and it is love that draws people to each other and love that draws others to God . Have a nice week-end.John:3:16 Nancy
 
mormon dr. thomas smith converted to the Catholic faith. listen to his cd available at www.lighthousecatholicmedia.com. it’s a cult and if you have relatives who are mormons, be a Christ disciple and w/ love do your best to lead them to the true faith.😉
God bless.
 
I do recall a scripture that goes something like this… Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48
a lie you say?
Yeah - we subscribe to it, we even believe it, have faith in it and honestly strive to become like our Father in Heaven?
Break out the tar and feathers for saying it… busted. 👍
One question though - Who are you trying to become like?
How about this quote from Isaiah 43:10 “You are my witnesses, says the LORD, my servants whom I have chosen to know and believe in me and understand that it is I. Before me no god was formed, and after me there shall be none.”
OR
John 17:3 (these are Christ’s words in a prayer to The Father) “Now this is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”

So…was Isaiah lying? was he mistaken? How about Christ?
There are a myriad other quotes…but I think this makes the point.

I am trying to become like my God, but I am not trying to be an equal to Him nor do I believe that “equality with him is a thing to grasp”. There is only ONE God…that is a fundamental belief of Christianity. If you want to be polytheistic, that is your right, but it is not Christianity.

I have no disdain or ill feelings for people who are mormon. In fact, I have love for them and that is why I feel compelled to say what I have said. When Satan is leading someone off the bridge of salvation with this kind of deception, we must shed light onto the lie. I am not saying mormons are lying…I am saying that they are believing a grave lie…the same lie that Satan tried on Eve, on the Israelites throughout the old testament, and the same one he continues to try and sell each and every one of us every day…that we are or can be equal to God…that we can be God.
I pray for God’s blessings, mercy, and peace on all of us.
 
John 17:3 (these are Christ’s words in a prayer to The Father) “Now this is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”

So…was Isaiah lying? was he mistaken? How about Christ?
There are a myriad other quotes…but I think this makes the point.

I am trying to become like my God, but I am not trying to be an equal to Him nor do I believe that “equality with him is a thing to grasp”.
you bring up a good point here - I don’t recall the word equal in my response. You did not comment on the scripture I quoted, you just threw other ones my way - scriptures of importance none the less.

To Know God - that is the real question… what does that mean to you?

Please stop trying to tell me what Latter-day Saints believe - we are not deceived.

Jesus is the Christ - I know it for myself. Will you try to convince me otherwise?
 
mormon dr. thomas smith converted to the Catholic faith. listen to his cd available at www.lighthousecatholicmedia.com. it’s a cult and if you have relatives who are mormons, be a Christ disciple and w/ love do your best to lead them to the true faith.😉
God bless.
😉 Thank You I had paperwork sent from the light house and I pray alot because My grandaughter joined them. All I can do is pray. Nancy
 
Please stop trying to tell me what Latter-day Saints believe - we are not deceived.
Jesus is the Christ - I know it for myself. Will you try to convince me otherwise?
I am not here to convince you of anything. Catholics believe in the ONE true God who is in 3 persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Jesus is not just a savior, he is GOD…and only Him…not me or you…nor will we ever be God. That is the point I was trying to make. Just curious as to why you are hanging out in Catholic forums. I took a look at your profile and your website. You were Catholic but have converted to LDS. Are you here in the hopes of converting others? If so, I really have no more to say to you. If you are here only for ecumenical dialogue without the intention of prosteletizing, then that is fine with me. Hearing arguments from other points of view serves to make me stronger in my faith and better able to defend it…so that works just fine for me.
To Know God - that is the real question… what does that mean to you?
To know AND love God…that is what we are all here for. To know him is not enough…Satan knows God. We must love Him and accept Him as our Lord and our God. Our faith has a rich tradition of mystics who know and love God more deeply than you or I. But even these are not considered prophets whose insight can alter, negate, or build upon the teaching of Christ himself. In fact, a touchstone or litmus test of any alleged revelation is whether it is consistent with the teachings of God in the holy scriptures, especially the teachings of Christ. How any religion that calls itself Christian can do anything different is beyond me.
God bless you and I pray that all who truly seek The Truth, who is God, will be with Him in heaven.
 
Just curious as to why you are hanging out in Catholic forums. I took a look at your profile and your website. You were Catholic but have converted to LDS. Are you here in the hopes of converting others? If so, I really have no more to say to you. If you are here only for ecumenical dialogue without the intention of prosteletizing, then that is fine with me. Hearing arguments from other points of view serves to make me stronger in my faith and better able to defend it…so that works just fine for me.
I am not here in the hopes of converting anyone. If the Spirit so moves anyone in that direction then wonderful, but my intent is to learn more about what motivates people of all faiths to believe there’s is the true and only way. The Catholic church mirrors some of our cherished beliefs and significantly departs on others. The questions I ask have elicited a variety of responses that have given me insights learned no where else. If these insights make me a better missionary or apologetic in defending my faith, than please don’t be offended. Along the way I have made some choice friends from your faith and have a greater appreciation for the way God works with all men of different faiths. I do not believe the Catholic church to be the true church but I did not join this forum to promote that belief. If my logic or arguement is sound as I present material that is considered true by both camps, then common ground is established and greater understanding can be achieved. I also have a fairly good idea of what principles of truth or doctrine Latter-day Saints practice and am ready and willing to answer questions where I can.
To know AND love God…that is what we are all here for. To know him is not enough…Satan knows God. We must love Him and accept Him as our Lord and our God.
You can indeed know Him in many more ways than you listed here. You can know how He thinks, how He feels, what He knows… you can know for yourself - a significant Latter-day teaching.
Our faith has a rich tradition of mystics who know and love God more deeply than you or I.
Can you qualify this statement for me - how can you know this to be true? Do you in some way suppose to know what I know?
But even these are not considered prophets whose insight can alter, negate, or build upon the teaching of Christ himself. In fact, a touchstone or litmus test of any alleged revelation is whether it is consistent with the teachings of God in the holy scriptures, especially the teachings of Christ. How any religion that calls itself Christian can do anything different is beyond me.
One of my thesises is to step out of that box and consider that you can indeed know for yourself without being a mystic or other high officer in the church.

With all my respect - Vinny
 
*For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity. *Moroni 8:18
I originally asked:
Part of God’s perfection is atemporality. How do you plan to become atemporal?
Since God is unchangeable He is necessarily atemporal.

How do you plan to become atemporal?
 
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