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  1. do mormons believe that some humans can become Gods?
  2. do mormons believe that Jesus is a separate and unique individual from the father?
  3. do mormons believe that there are three levels of heaven?
 
Could an LDS member please verify. I like to hear the proverbial horse’s own voice.
 
I could write you a book on the topic, and maybe one day I should. When I was a much younger man I left the Church and joined the LDS Church. Went though the whole process, all the way up to becoming sealed to my wife in the temple. It was though the power of the Holy Spirit, much studying and prayer that I have returned home.
 
traillius said:
  1. do mormons believe that some humans can become Gods?
  2. do mormons believe that Jesus is a separate and unique individual from the father?
  3. do mormons believe that there are three levels of heaven?
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I was a member of the LDS Faith up until four years ago when I converted to The Catholic Faith. I even served a mission and all that good stuff, been to the temple even had temple marriage. I’ll do the best I can in ansering your questions and hopefully they can be of help.

1.) The LDS Church belives that ALL People have to Potential to be Gods, and privy to ALL that comes with that. ie creating their own worlds and governing their own creations. “As God is now man may become, as man is now God once was.” Brigham Young the second President of the Church stated in a General Confrence of the Church.

2.) Yes, Jesus Christ in the LDS View point is a distinct individual from “Heavenly Father”. Both persons posess Physical bodies made up of “Flesh and Bone” tangible to the touch. These are prefected and ressurected bodies.

3.)Technically yes, The Terestial, the Telestial, and Celestial(sp?) kingdoms. The Celestial Kingdom however is subdivided into three levels as well. with an upper middle and lower kingdom. So Technically 5 levels of heaven.

Hope this was helpful.
Have a Great Day and GOD Bless!
 
Remember that as Catholics, we believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are separate Persons.
 
The difference is we (Catholics) believe in a triune God, three personages equal one God. The LDS believe in three personages equal three Gods.
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traillius said:
Could an LDS member please verify. I like to hear the proverbial horse’s own voice.
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Traillius,
  1. Yes, since Jesus and the apostle John both said so.
  2. Yes, since Jesus said so and Stephen saw it was so and the Holy Spirit also says so.
  3. Yes, but those are broad classifications. When Jesus said “in my Father’s house are many mansions” and taught the parable of the talents, and Paul said “Who will render to every man according to his deeds” (Romans 2:6) they really did know what they were talking about. The telestial kingdom will not be one single place. It will be many places, depending on the choices each person made in life and continued to make in the spirit world.
 
carneyc said:
The difference is we (Catholics) believe in a triune God, three personages equal one God. The LDS believe in three personages equal three Gods.
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True, but let’s clarify further (since word choice always confuses these discussions, since we all use the same words to mean different things sometimes): As Catholics, we believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate persons, and are one God, as in one in substance, purpose, will and intent. We know that Jesus did not pray to Himself. We also believe that only the Son has a body, as He Incarnated, died, was bodily resurrected, and bodily ascended

Mormons believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one God, but the oneness is of intent, will, and purpose, NOT substance. They also believe that both the Father and the Son have bodies of flesh and bones.
 
Concerning #1, I have been reading Pope Benedict XVI’s book called The Fathers, and in his chapter about Clement of Alexandria he says this:

“…Clement espouses the doctrine which claims that man’s ultimate end is to liken himself to God. We were created in the image and likeness of God, but this is also a challenge, a journey:indeed, life’s purpose, its ultimate destination, is truly to become similar to God. This is possible through the co-naturality with him which man received the moment of creation, which is why, already in himself, he is the image of God.”

From what some Mormons have told me, this is what they are getting at when they say they will become like God.

I don’t think they really believe they will be governing thier own planets, at least, this is not what I have heard from them.
 
Inseparable in their one substance, the three divine Persons are also inseparable in their activity. The Trinity has one operation, sole and the same. In this one divine action, however, each Person is present according to the mode which is proper to him in the Trinity. The real point here is; this is not what the LDS believe or teach and is the main reason the Catholic Church no longer recognizes their baptism as being valid.
 
Theosis in Catholicism/Orthodoxy is different from the exaltation of Mormonism.

Mormons believe that we are all literally the spirit children of God the Father and the Heavenly Mother. Those that reach the full potential of gods will also be able to have spirit children, as the Father and Heavenly Mother did.

"The Prophet Joseph Smith taught: “When you climb up a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the Gospel–you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the veil [died] before you will have learned them. It is not all to be comprehended in this world; it will be a great work to learn our salvation and exaltation even beyond the grave” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 348).

This is the way our Heavenly Father became God. Joseph Smith taught: “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God. . . . He was once a man like us; . . . God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 345-46).

Our Heavenly Father knows our trials, our weaknesses, and our sins. He has compassion and mercy on us. He wants us to succeed even as he did."

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As far as getting planets, I will have to look up some references, I vaguely remember seeing something about “worlds”. Now, exaltation involves becoming Eternal Parents, as God the Father and the Heavenly Mother are. You will have spirit children as they did. It may just be strong speculation that such spirits will go on to populate a world, just as Heavenly Father’s spirit children have.
 
Also, as Catholics, we too believe that God’s House (Heaven) has many mansions. Once you analyze what exactly is meant by the Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial Kingdoms, you notice the differences.
 
ThuriferAcolyte said:
Also, as Catholics, we too believe that God’s House (Heaven) has many mansions. Once you analyze what exactly is meant by the Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial Kingdoms, you notice the differences.
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It seems that mormons and catholics have much in common with their wording. And this should be no surprise since both churches have much truth. One claims no apostacy and other claims apostacy. But in the end, there are similiarities more than with protestants.
 
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To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done. People who are not married in the temple may live in other parts of the celestial kingdom, but they will not be exalted.
 
why_me said:
It seems that mormons and catholics have much in common with their wording. And this should be no surprise since both churches have much truth. One claims no apostacy and other claims apostacy. But in the end, there are similiarities more than with protestants.
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Actually, we have a lot more in common with many Protestant churches (there is no one “Protestant Church” or protestant doctrine), especially various types of Anglican churches and various Lutheran churches. We have the most in common with the Orthodox Church.
 
To say that any human can become a God or the God of any " world " is blasphemy. May God have mercy on our souls. I cannot agree with those people. While I do not condemn to hell, I can say that anyone who aspires to be equal with the Almighty is committing the sin of pride that lucifer did. " I shall become as the most high. " Aspiring to Godhood is sinful, evil, and blasphemous.
 
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