LDS: What do you know about your Heavenly Mother? Would you like to know more?

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zaffiroborant said:
You know it doesn’t matter to me whether or not the LDS church teaches this or whether or not members accept it as doctrine. The fact that Joseph Smith, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, who supposedly talked with God the Father and His Son (depending on which version of the story you read) who was supposedly hand picked by God to “restore” the original church established by Christ (or Adam if you look into it more) could be so very wrong about the Father that Joseph’s very words need the appellation “it’s not doctine” proves that Smith is not what he claimed. He is not what he claimed, it is clearly evident from the denial of his teachings that he didn’t know what he was talking about, he didn’t know God.
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Now there is an Occam’s Razor for you.👍
 
Where have all the Mormons gone?

Joseph tricked them every one…
 
Croso7177 said:
Well Croso 717 recieved an infraction so i set up a new account
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Welcome back. But setting up a new account while you are suspended is also an infraction that can get you banned.

Paul (formerly LDS, now happily Catholic)
 
mwok said:
Does anyone know of any mormon forums?
maybe we should go there?🤷
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Been there, done that. It wasn’t pretty. The anti-Catholic venom was unreal. All of the classic anti-Catholic myths came out in force.

Did you know that we worship statues? I didn’t know that until I went on a Mormon forum.

Did you know that we pray to the pope? I didn’t know that until I went on a Mormon forum.

Did you know that we deny the resurrection? I didn’t know that until I went on a Mormon forum.

Etc., etc., etc…
 
PaulDupre said:
Where did that matter come from? If you think it is logically impossible for God to have always been there, then you must also admit that it is logically impossible for matter to have always been there.

So who created the matter that your god uses to make stuff? :hmmm:

Paul (formerly LDS, now happily Catholic)
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guote from the book The Life Book pg. 42 :
“if God is an individual spirit and dwells in a body, the question will arise “Is He the Eternal Father?” Yes, He is the Eternal Father, “Is it a fact that He never had a beginning?” In the elementary particles of his organism, He did not. But if He is an organized Being, there must have been a time when that being was organized. This, some one will say, would infer that God had a beginning. This spirit which pervades all things, which is light and life of all things, by which He is omnipotent, never had a beginning and never will have an end. It is the light of truth;it is the spirit of intelligence”
also the elementary parts of matter as well as of spirit, using ordinary terms, never had a beginning they are Eternal. matter and elements in the unorganized universe can never be created and are in an unlimited quantities before the Gods of the universe for them to organize. no one can fully comprehend what this is saying neither can i but i believe its true.
 
So, what’s so great about taking stuff that’s already there and organizing it?
I do that with my bookcase.
 
mwok said:
So, what’s so great about taking stuff that’s already there and organizing it?
I do that with my bookcase.
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its quite different than just organizing your book shelf you can this matter and make it into anything you want. like take the smallest atom of something and make it completely something else we believe that all things that we do not understand because we are in the flesh on the earth will be revealed to us in the Millennium and in Celestial Glory.
 
So, its taking something and changing it into something else?
Like say, taking a stem cell and turning it into a car?
 
mwok said:
Does anyone know of any mormon forums?
maybe we should go there?🤷
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Croso7177 said:
guote from the book The Life Book pg. 42 :
“if God is an individual spirit and dwells in a body, the question will arise “Is He the Eternal Father?” Yes, He is the Eternal Father, “Is it a fact that He never had a beginning?” In the elementary particles of his organism, He did not. But if He is an organized Being, there must have been a time when that being was organized. This, some one will say, would infer that God had a beginning. This spirit which pervades all things, which is light and life of all things, by which He is omnipotent, never had a beginning and never will have an end. It is the light of truth;it is the spirit of intelligence”
also the elementary parts of matter as well as of spirit, using ordinary terms, never had a beginning they are Eternal. matter and elements in the unorganized universe can never be created and are in an unlimited quantities before the Gods of the universe for them to organize. no one can fully comprehend what this is saying neither can i but i believe its true.
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You have not answered the question. You have just “kicked the can down the road…”.

Where did the matter come from? It could not have created itself.

Where did the design of the universe come from? Where did time come from? Where did the laws of physics come from? Why does everything work so wonderfully?

Surely there is some intelligence behind all this. If it is not your “heavenly father” then who is it?

Paul (forrmerly LDS, now happily Catholic)
 
mwok said:
So, its taking something and changing it into something else?
Like say, taking a stem cell and turning it into a car?
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no im talking about the most primal atoms or elements/matter like you take the smallest atom in lets say a tree and make a whole new different species of tree. something with any other basic matter or element. like i said we can’t fully understand these things because we are in the flesh on the earth and our complete understanding is limited while in this probationary state.
 
Still doesn’t sound as spectacular as making a tree out of say…nonexistence?
 
PaulDupre said:
You have not answered the question. You have just “kicked the can down the road…”.

Where did the matter come from? It could not have created itself.

Where did the design of the universe come from? Where did time come from? Where did the laws of physics come from? Why does everything work so wonderfully?

Surely there is some intelligence behind all this. If it is not your “heavenly father” then who is it?

Paul (forrmerly LDS, now happily Catholic)
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i just did answer, the matter you are referring to is eternal it as always been there and the next question you are probably going to ask is then where did the first god come into existence to start it all we have not been given revelation concerning the matter because we can’t completely understand it. its not really necessary to know to accept the gospel on earth.
 
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