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jimmy
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That is the teaching of the Catholic Church. All Jews must convert. Jesus Christ is the only path. He is the way, the light, and the truth.
This guy expects us to be relativists.
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Rand_Al_Thor
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That rabbi is a complete idiot. He says, quite predictably, that the Church had a role in the Holocaust during the Third Reich and he says that the Church tried to “make a Catholic out of a Jew” by canonizing St. Edith Stein. SHE WAS CATHOLIC! She was ethnically Jewish, but she was Catholic. The Church doesn’t canonize people that are not Catholic. I can’t believe people can be so ignorant…arguing when you don’t know what the heck you’re talking about only makes you look stupid. And this rabbi has succeeded in making himself look exceedingly stupid.
In Christ,
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In Christ,
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bpbasilphx
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When the Jews apologize for the blasphemies against Jesus and His Holy Mother in he Talmud, i’ll listen to their complaints about Christian liturgy.
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b_justb
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I don’t play baseball. I don’t like baseball. But let me tell you how the rules should be in baseball!
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brotherhrolf
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The Rabbi is misinformed. We never stopped praying for our Jewish bretheren after Vatican II. There have always been prayers for the Jews on Good Friday. The only thing different was the prayer used for the TLM and it only brought the old prayer up to date.
The good bishop has a point though.
The good bishop has a point though.
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mschrank
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Yes, you all should look up what the Talmud has to say about Jesus.
I’m not even going to repeat it here.
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Yerusalyim
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The teaching of the Church is NOT that all Jews must convert…read the CCC a bit, especially around paragraph 839 and 840…that area.
All Salvation IS through Christ, but how He accomplishes that is not limited to your limited understanding.
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mschrank
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Then why can’t I just forget Catholicism and become Jewish?
It’s a lot easier because you just have to do certain things which are very much within a man’s power, and you get to be Jewish, which is a cool ethnicity to be a part of with an amazing history and culture. I could even immigrate to Israel and live in a warm climate.
I’d also be able to make some cracking jokes and get away with it. Ever watch Seinfeld?
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Valke2
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I apologize for anything in the Talmud (that I’m sure no one here has read) that you take as blasphemy against Jesus.
Homolka: Jesus put forward his arguments within the context of an internal Jewish dialogue. What the Church turned this into was something completely different. It made Jesus the rabbi into a deity. On top of that, it claims that the crucifixion of this rabbi is relevant to my personal salvation. Such teachings would have been news to Jesus.
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Dauphin
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There is no salvation outside the Church.
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mschrank
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Funny how the people who knew Jesus best knew nothing about what he was really about, but outsiders always do. Well, at least your “internal Jewish dialogue” apologetic of Judaism is more sophisticated than the Muslim’s “Jesus got zapped off the cross!” alibi.
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Dauphin
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What is this based on? How do you imagine the apostles got the idea that Christ is God? Why did they break so dramatically and immediately from what Christ was teaching? To what end did the Church invent the divinity of Christ? When were the references to Christ’s divinity added to the Bible? What evidence do we have that Christ did not claim to be God?
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Valke2
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It’s not an alibi. Jesus was clearly speaking as a Jew and to Jews. But I understand your displeausure. It’s like, for exmaple, Jews who know talmud best know nothing about what it means, but outsiders always do.
I get it. Believe me.
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Dauphin
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And?
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Sagefrakrobatik
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I doubt you know what your talking about. Have you ever read the Talmud in its entirety? Do you even know the main divisions of the Talmud? DId you know that it would take the average person seven years to read the talmud!!! Thats not even including trying to interpret it. MY college library has all the tracates that are party of the Talmud. There is over 70 Tracates. Each tracate consists of more than 100 pages!
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mschrank
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Personally, if I were looking to defend Judaism, I’d go with the “all made up” thing, not the “Jesus never claimed to be God” thing. I think he did, and he was killed for blasphemy.
That’s why the Talmud says what it says about him.
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saylo
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How can it be blasphemy when what He (Jesus) said is true?
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jimmy
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Actually the Church teaches that baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is absolutely necessary. The Church does not believe there are multiple paths to salvation. It professes one path and that is through the Church. The sacraments are absolutely necessary. Have you heard of the doctrine “Outside the Church there is no salvation”? That is the teaching of the Catholic Church.
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jimmy
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Valke, the problem with that is that is that the accounts say otherwise. The accounts of Jesus’ life say that the crucifixion is relevant to you and to me and to everyone else. The accounts speak of God become man. Pope Benedict, in Jesus of Nazareth, quotes Rabbi Neusner as saying specifically that it is because of Christ’s claim to be God that he rejects Jesus.
We can speculate that Jesus didn’t actually get crucified or that He wasn’t ressurected or anything about the gospels. But the fact is that we can’t pull these ideas from any written account. I could also speculate that George Washington didn’t participate in the revolutionary war and that he wasn’t the first president but that wouldn’t deal with the written accounts of his life.
It seems to be a more accurate approach to say that Jesus is wrong because He claimed to be God and because you don’t believe He was ressurrected than to say that Jesus didn’t actually say what He said.
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