LEAKED VIDEO: Google Leadership's Dismayed Reaction to Trump Election |

[JulianN]

What arrogance! And your post proves your obvious dislike of President Trump
will forever distort your ability to judge his
administration fairly.

It is not arrogance to question our leadership, particularly when they have demonstrably lied to us. It’s a foundational principle of our government.

And Trump lies. He lies more than any president of recent memory—in his first 10 months, he told 6 times as many lies as President Obama did in his entire presidency. These aren’t nuanced opinions of lies, but verifiable statements of fact. As recently as the other day, regarding the number of people who died in the hurricane in Puerto Rico.

Regarding pollution, despite what @Theo520 indicates, Trump has been been dismantling the air and water standards that have led to reduced carbon emissions and cleaner water. Those reduced carbon numbers won’t stay down by themselves.

 

[7_Sorrows]

He lies more than any president in recent
memory - in his first 10 months he told 6
times as many lies as President Obama
did in his entire presidency.

That sounds like a statement a 6th grader would make, but I bet you got that from
Don Lemon or Joe Scarborough.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

don’t you guys have free speech? that would include expressing joy or sadness about a leader.

surely complaining about people who are expressing an opinion goes against free speech principles

We do, but you will find that a lot of USA citizens don’t understand USA Constitutional Free Speech. For the most part it only means the government can’t take actions to limit one’s speech/expressions. When the government are those acting on behalf of the government are not actors in a scenario then it’s not a free speech issue.

whether one can trust google to not perpetuate that bias, intentionally or not, in their business offerings.

Well, one can trust anything. At the end of the day that’s a feeling.

I think it would be a good idea for everyone to boycott Google’s services

Having a smaller digital footprint/profile can be beneficial. I’m in agreement with you.

and that is exactly the reason for the sensationalist headline

leaked video’ like someone did something wrong in a secret cabal in china or russia or north korea like conditions.

I’ve seen some article titles about someone being “Caught admitting”, which cast a negative tone on what was otherwise an open declaration that a person made.

And Trump lies. He lies more than any president of recent memory—in his first 10 months, he told 6 times as many lies as President Obama did in his entire presidency. These aren’t nuanced opinions of lies, but verifiable statements of fact

That reminds me, about the inauguration crowd…

Trump Had Inauguration Crowd Photos Edited, Report Claims

President Donald Trump personally intervened to have a government photographer edit official photos of his inauguration to make the crowd look bigger.

petapixel.com

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Expressing political opinions is great. Expressing them as a person of power over employees at an employee meeting is coercive.

There is no evidence of coercion being exercised in that meeting video.

Expressing them when your company gets millions in contracts paid for by the voters for the president is foolish.

Foolish in what sense? That it will be bad PR for Google? Show me how this video has done anything but provide some red meat to Trump supporters who already thought Google was in bed with the devil.

Expressing them when you supposedly provide an unbiased search engine is foolish

There is no evidence that the opinions expressed in the meeting has in any way affected the search algorithms.

The opinions themselves were bigoted and hateful.

Just demonizing the other side. I suspect that Trump supporters are now throwing around words like “bigoted” and “hateful” in order to devalue the words so that those words don’t sting as much when they are applied to them.

 

[JulianN]

Here’s the list. And if you’ll actually read it, you can see it’s accurate. These are all easily checked facts. For both of them. For the record, like President Obama, when President Bush was caught saying something untrue, he stopped saying it. That’s not the case with Trump.

Opinion | Trump’s Lies vs. Obama’s (Published 2017)

President Trump’s supporters asked us to compare. We did.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Hereiam]

Undying support for Trump is a classic case of the end justifying the means.

I would never justify my kid selling dope at school because his grades are good; and so it goes with Trump…all the positive aspects of his administration do not excuse is continuous lying.

Trust is important, and trust should be rooted in honesty…however, from the dawn of man, many (including Eve) succumbed to Satan (also known as the Liar), and put their trust in him…so while it may be disappointing, its not surprising.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I watched the first 2 minutes so far and it has made me very glad I work for a company where the “leadership” appears in a suit and talks about our sales projections like a normal human, instead of getting up in a grubby sweatshirt looking like he just rolled out of bed and discussing smoking pot on company property. I guess I am too much of an old fuddy-duddy.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

surely complaining about people who are expressing an opinion goes against free speech principles

No. People are free to express an opinion, and other people are equally free to complain about them expressing an opinion all day long.

It’s only when one or the other group is not permitted to speak at all that we have a problem.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

So it would stand to reason if you support Trump’s policies then Google conflicts with them. It would also be reasonable to suspect that Google works against Trump’s agenda.

The video is amusing. However, the above is kind of a “well duh, Thank you Captain Obvious”, dontcha think?

Of course Google, Facebook and all their ilk can’t stand Trump. The vast majority of their employees are super liberals. This isn’t news to anybody.

 

[Shakuhachi]

No one seems to be noticing the growing deficit.

The U.S. Federal deficit was $587 billion in Obama’s last year and it grew to $666 billion in Trump’s first year of his presidency.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/02/09/trumps-federal-budget-deficit-1-trillion-and-beyond/#9262ac2544f2

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/54325

 

[7_Sorrows]

How juvenile!

 

[JulianN]

That legitimately doesn’t make sense as a response to my post.
I’m out.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

How did this thread go from a discussion of Google and other corporate culture, to some sort of an octopus talking about Presidential lies and the deficit, in just 32 posts?
Shaking my head…I’m out too.

Discussions need to be about a topic, not just whatever anybody wants to bring up.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

How about what is being done here to google and this propaganda, this comparison to cabals with leaked videos. surely thats a problem and a great injustice to google

 

[qui_est_ce]

Re: pollution—
http://www.environmentalintegrity.org/trump-watch-epa/regulatory-rollbacks/

And I definitely did not get a tax break. Many in the middle class did not. Large corporations have gotten tax breaks that were predominantly funneled to shareholders, not job creation or better wages. Many employees of large corporations like Amazon, Walmart, etc. have to resort to food stamps to supplement inadequate wages.

Actually wages have risen. Companies can’t get away with paying minimum wages because employees can find jobs that pay more.

 

[exnihilo]

There is no evidence of coercion being exercised in that meeting video.

I’d say the opinions themselves are coercive. If your boss says he is ‘deeply offended’ by the person you voted for then the employee should feel frightened.

There is no evidence that the opinions expressed in the meeting has in any way affected the search algorithms.

Oh there is evidence. There isn’t proof but there is evidence.

More importantly an executive said they wil do what they can to advance ‘really important values’ which in context means things which counter the election of Trump.

Just demonizing the other side. I suspect that Trump supporters are now throwing around words like “bigoted” and “hateful” in order to devalue the words so that those words don’t sting as much when they are applied to them.

Calling voters for Trump ignorant, poor hicks is bigotry and hateful.

 

[qui_est_ce]

ConcernedConvert:

A lot of people did. Child credit change and some other breaks as well.

No doubt. But the statement “everybody got the tax break” is not true.

mea culpa. My intention was to point out that the tax breaks did not go to “big corporations” only. Many small businesses , such as the one I work for, benefited as well.

 

[exnihilo]

The video is amusing. However, the above is kind of a “well duh, Thank you Captain Obvious”, dontcha think?

Of course Google, Facebook and all their ilk can’t stand Trump. The vast majority of their employees are super liberals. This isn’t news to anybody.

I don’t disagree. But often when dealing with politics people deny the obvious.

Also, I’d say the level of hatred and contempt shown in a employee meeting for the president and his voters is rather alarming. I mean had any executive said this about the election of Obama he’d be branded a racist and by now long gone from his position.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

The vast majority of their employees are super liberals. This isn’t news to anybody.

Has me wondering how many large technology companies with conservative leanings we might see. Most of the large technology companies of which I know tend to be placed in cities (which tend to be more liberal), prefer to hire younger people (also usually more liberal) and have international footprints. Having employees in different companies there are advantages to being able to move people across borders for various operations. This is something that is also seen as liberal.

The closest thing I can think of to a conservative technology company is IBM. Or maybe they appear more politically neutral. With their activities concentrating on HR services and SAS the company doesn’t show a very strong personality.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

“Great injustice”? Their stock isn’t falling over this. No one much cares except for Breitbart and its fans to be honest.

“Cabal”? They had an internal all-hands that wasn’t meant for public release. My company has the same thing about every quarter and we’re not supposed to leak it to the public either. So does every other company out there, and all of them have rules against publication of internal meetings and internal info. When they want something to go public, the CEO makes a public statement and they do a media release. It’s a normal day at the office for us all.

The fact that some manager of Google, a known left-leaning company (and it makes business sense for them to lean left in view of their user base and hiring pool), made anti-Trump (and pro-pot) statements at an all-hands is not a “stop the presses” moment. It’s about what I’d expect from them.