If you look in the Catechism, the Biblical passages from which a given teaching is derived are usually noted for reference. I know that doesn’t address your issue, but it might be interesting, next time someone quotes form the Catechism, to see -why- we teach that.
Good point, ProdglArchitect;. I will do that.
Lol, my mother used that little anecdote on my all the time XDGood point, ProdglArchitect;. I will do that.
If the Catechism cites scripture, count me in. I just assumed it was church-speak and the Catholic owner’s manual, if you will, and did not have references to scripture. If that was an incorrect assumption, I apologize.
We all know what happens when we ASSume, right?
I’ll do that. Thanks, ProdglArchitect;.
The Small or Large?What!? The Catchism is Protestant?
(Kidding.)
.That is not what the problem is. I think the poster was noting that many who quote this33,000 number do not realise that whoever did the statistics included catholics in this value.
Yes, those I agree with. I know that my Catholic friends mean well but I don’t think it’s necessarily very persuasive to link me to Scott Hahn’s, Jimmy Akin, or Tim Staples sites or works. Linking me to the Early Church Fathers is helpful because I can find those passages in my materials, too.For me, the least persuasive arguments, or at least the ones that don’t impress me very much when used are:
For that reason, I am most impressed by those Catholics who can explain and/or defend their beliefs from scripture, and you know who you are
- Defending a Catholic doctrine by quoting section xyz of the Catechism:
- That is helpful when explaining a Catholic doctrine or belief to an inquiring person like me but it does not carry as much weight when *defending *the faith as the Bible does. Catholics who know their scripture carry a lot of weight with Protestants.
- Protestants don’t believe that it is important for Christians to have or do good works.
Well, we try to at least point people in the right direction. If you’re reading a forum, then switching to reading “professional apologists” (or “people who have their own TV shows” or whatever we want to call them
) is leveling up, so to speak.P.S. Needless to say, I’m not trying to push a blanket generalization. Certainly, some professional apologetic materials are worse than others, just like some posts (or blogs) are better than others.Well, we try to at least point people in the right direction. If you’re reading a forum, then switching to reading “professional apologists” (or “people who have their own TV shows” or whatever we want to call them
Don’t tell anybody but I never was a big Billy Graham fan…but my Mom became a Christian from one of his TV broadcasts - I believe it was in New York - when I was a baby (1957).Well, we try to at least point people in the right direction. If you’re reading a forum, then switching to reading “professional apologists” (or “people who have their own TV shows” or whatever we want to call them
Just like (presumably) if I were reading a Protestant forum, then switched to reading Billy Graham, I would be leveling up, right?
I totally understand, gentlemen. I guess I’ve listened to EWTN radio enough to know some of their perspectives - I’m sure they are good reads even for understanding Catholicism better. I shouldn’t sound so dismissive…
Mainly it is for further reading if one desires so. What is written in a post is limited. One post only can contain 1000 words.
I watched EWTN with my grandmother back when I was younger. Mother Angelica was probably my favorite program ( it was certainly Granny’s!) and they had plenty of edifying programs to watch. Why would your words be dismissive? EWTN is a great medium for furthering your understanding of the Catholic faith.