Lefebvrians: “Rome doesn’t plan on imposing a capitulation”

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10/23/2014

Lefebvrians: “Rome doesn’t plan on imposing a capitulation”

Mgr. Guido Pozzo reports on the latest developments in relations between Rome and the Society of St. Pius X

MARCO TOSATTI
VATICAN CITY

In an interview with authoritative French weekly magazine Famille Chrétienne, the Secretary of Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, Guido Pozzo, discussed the state of relations between Rome and the Society of St. Pius X following Mgr. Fellay’s recent meeting with the Prefect of the Doctrine for the Faith. From the interview, it would seem that the Holy See does not intend to put any pressure on Mgr. Lefebvre’s followers but would like an agreement to be reached, although the timeframe for this is uncertain. What we are given to understand here, is that Rome intends to show greater flexibility on any aspect that does not regard doctrine…

Perhaps the most interesting part of the interview is that which addressed the sticking points in said dialogue. Mgr. Pozzo underlined that “any reservations or positions the Society of St. Pius X may have regarding aspects which are not related to faith but to pastoral questions or the prudential teaching of the Magisterium do not necessarily need to withdrawn or relinquished.” Here Rome seems to be showing an attempt to alter positions expressed in the past: According to Mgr. Pozzo, the fraternity’s reservations are linked to “aspects of pastoral care or the prudential teaching of the Magisterium.” The monsignor’s statement suggests that since these criticisms and reservations are no longer labelled as “doctrinal” the Lefebvrians could legitimately continue to express them.

This approach is expressed more clearly in the following part of the interview: “The Holy See does not wish to impose a capitulation on the SSPX. On the contrary, it invites the fraternity to stand beside it within the same framework of doctrinal principles that is necessary in guaranteeing the same adhesion to the faith and Catholic doctrine on the Magisterium and the Tradition. At the same time, there is room for further reflection on the reservations the fraternity has expressed regarding certain aspects and the wording of the Second Vatican Council documents as well as some reforms that followed but which do not refer to subjects which are dogmatically or doctrinally indisputable.”

Finally, one other very important clarification was made: “There is no doubt that the teachings of the Second Vatican Council vary a great deal in terms of how authoritative and binding they are depending on the text. So, for example, the Lumen Gentium Constitution on the Church and the Dei Verbum on the Divine Revelation are doctrinal declarations even though no dogmatic definition was given to them”, whereas the declarations on religious freedom, non-Christian religions and the decree on ecumenism “are authoritative and binding to a different and lesser degree.”

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Seem to not be much different than what we were saying under PBXVI. If the Lefebvrians want to be part of the Church, they have to accept the authoritative teaching of the entire Magisterium of the Catholic Church, including Vatican Council II and the Papal Magisteriums of the last several pontiffs. Let’s pray they can do so, although I must admit I don’t think it terribly likely.
 
Wouldn’t it be something if the Pope issued a document along the lines of the Kasper proposal on divorce/remarriage/Communion and, at the same time, a document establishing (for example) the personal prelature of the Society of St. Pius X, led by Bishop Fellay.

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Wouldn’t it be something if the Pope issued a document along the lines of the Kasper proposal on divorce/remarriage/Communion and, at the same time, a document establishing (for example) the personal prelature of the Society of St. Pius X, led by Bishop Fellay.

Dan
Yes, something horribly unfortunate in both cases.
 
Yes, something horribly unfortunate in both cases.
I don’t have a stake in this but I see some have already expressed their bias on the FSSPX situation. The real unfortunate part is those same people expressed a severe distaste upon hearing about the lifting on the excommunications, which was favorable to the FSSPX. Under these conditions and as long as these hardened hostilities exist, I can’t see a complete communion for the entire fraternity.
 
I have never met a member of the Society of Saint Pius the VI that refered to themselves as a “Lefebvrian”.

The ad hominem shows a lack of charity and a bias in reporting.
 
I have never met a member of the Society of Saint Pius the VI that refered to themselves as a “Lefebvrian”.

The ad hominem shows a lack of charity and a bias in reporting.
I thought so too. I posted it because I think the article has important information, but I wish the title was different.

Vatican Insider has been pretty disappointing in that regard.
 
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