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Jeannie52
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The last sentence in the article is:
“Gateway Charter denied making any such comments. Gateway Charter representatives said the school follows the Lee County Public School Code of Conduct. The rules say jewelry that may cause injury isn’t allowed. Rosaries aren’t specifically mentioned.”
Kudos to this student for his strong stand on his faith!!
At first I thought how can a Rosary cause injury?
The devil will do anything to keep God out of schools and everywhere else.
The rosary is THEE weapon against Satan and his evil spirits.
“Gateway Charter denied making any such comments. Gateway Charter representatives said the school follows the Lee County Public School Code of Conduct. The rules say jewelry that may cause injury isn’t allowed. Rosaries aren’t specifically mentioned.”
Kudos to this student for his strong stand on his faith!!
At first I thought how can a Rosary cause injury?
The devil will do anything to keep God out of schools and everywhere else.
The rosary is THEE weapon against Satan and his evil spirits.
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tawny
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God bless him for standing up for his faith.
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Sarcelle
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Any jewelry, bracelets, rings, necklaces, worn around rotating machinery can be a safety hazard.The last sentence in the article is:
“Gateway Charter denied making any such comments. Gateway Charter representatives said the school follows the Lee County Public School Code of Conduct. The rules say jewelry that may cause injury isn’t allowed. Rosaries aren’t specifically mentioned.”
Kudos to this student for his strong stand on his faith!!
At first I thought how can a Rosary cause injury?
The devil will do anything to keep God out of schools and everywhere else.
The rosary is THEE weapon against Satan and his evil spirits.
This could be true if he were taking shop class. If this is the case, than this may be a safety issue rather than an anti-religion issue. Given how litigious US society can be I don’t really blame the school.
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Micosil
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Also, looks like the brother is facing the same kind of secular nonsense harassment:
nbc-2.com/story/30565606/brother-of-lehigh-teen-suspended-from-school-for-wearing-a-rosary-faces-same-outcome#.VlC__N4ZWPA
I truly do not understand why this happens in the US. In Spain, even though by law we’re a secular state, and some people take a dim view of the Catholic Church because of certain things in Spanish history, nobody cares if you wear a rosary, a cross, a crucifix, a medal – or for that matter, a hijab, a turban, or whatever. And needless to say, handwavy reasons like “gangs use it” would quite simply not fly.
nbc-2.com/story/30565606/brother-of-lehigh-teen-suspended-from-school-for-wearing-a-rosary-faces-same-outcome#.VlC__N4ZWPA
:banghead:
I truly do not understand why this happens in the US. In Spain, even though by law we’re a secular state, and some people take a dim view of the Catholic Church because of certain things in Spanish history, nobody cares if you wear a rosary, a cross, a crucifix, a medal – or for that matter, a hijab, a turban, or whatever. And needless to say, handwavy reasons like “gangs use it” would quite simply not fly.
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Micosil
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Yeah, that is true. Except that isn’t what the mother claims was stated as the reason.
It remains to be seen if another of those “number of reasons” was safety-related, but it seems odd that they’d lump in a legitimate safety concern with a poor, handwavy “reason” such as it being “gang-related”.
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LongingSoul
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There’s always a danger when jumping to an automatic conclusion that this is a religious persecution issue. Even most Catholic schools around would not allow the wearing of Rosary Beads in the way of a piece of jewelry or as a talisman. Perhaps a cross on the collar like a Priest or nun. In the old days the nuns used to wear their rosary on their belt or under their scapular (the front and back apron that wen over the head).
I think that the boy being introduced to the Church only a few months ago and having some issues related to rough childhood, would be better being directed in the respect for schools responsibility to promote unity and manage potential trouble.
It’s awful when special interest groups exploit a situation for their own agenda without giving due respect to all the other aspects involved… most importantly the existing emotional issues the boy has. He deserves good guidance for his newly found faith.
I think that the boy being introduced to the Church only a few months ago and having some issues related to rough childhood, would be better being directed in the respect for schools responsibility to promote unity and manage potential trouble.
It’s awful when special interest groups exploit a situation for their own agenda without giving due respect to all the other aspects involved… most importantly the existing emotional issues the boy has. He deserves good guidance for his newly found faith.
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Micosil
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This is true, but note that while the Catholic school prohibits it to not permit a sacramental to be used as mere jewelry or a superstitious talisman, that’s probably not what happened at this school.
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OraLabora
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The media being the media, we will probably never learn the full story.
Methinks there’s more to this story than what is being reported here.
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Dwyer
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The Public Schools’ War on the Rosary has been going on in various public schools for at least several years now.
Public School officials have classified the Rosary as a gang symbol by public school rule fiat that results in an automatic strict liability suspension without consideration at all of the student’s intent or state of mind for wearing the religious symbol.
After several legal cases finding that the public schools violated the Constitutional and Civil Rights of the students, the Public School officials are now classifying the Rosary as a safety hazard.
Might as well ban sharp pencils, rulers, scissors, weight lifting, school sports, cheerleading, and automobiles to ensure student safety.
Just another example of the War on Christianity.
Public School officials have classified the Rosary as a gang symbol by public school rule fiat that results in an automatic strict liability suspension without consideration at all of the student’s intent or state of mind for wearing the religious symbol.
After several legal cases finding that the public schools violated the Constitutional and Civil Rights of the students, the Public School officials are now classifying the Rosary as a safety hazard.
Might as well ban sharp pencils, rulers, scissors, weight lifting, school sports, cheerleading, and automobiles to ensure student safety.
Just another example of the War on Christianity.
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JakeWI
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I vaguely remember being told not to pray when I prayed before eating a snack in my Kindergarten class. I ended up at a Catholic school after that year.
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Micosil
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Who knows.
Hm, I see. So that sheds more light on the issue, I didn’t realize that it had been taken to court on the “gang-related” topic and found in favor of the students.
That is crazy. :banghead:
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Lost_Sheep
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There was a local story hear a couple years ago, that the Catholic students in a public high school were singled out for a student assembly and told by the principal and the school’s “Resource Counselor” (read security officer) that rosaries would not be permitted in the school; not just worn and displayed as jewelry, but the students could not even carry one in their pocket or purse.
Furthermore - this is what really upset parents - if it was reported to a school official that a student had partaken of communion wine, the “offense” would be treated as underage drinking and dealt with accordingly.
Thankfully, after enough people complained to the school board, the principal backed down.
Furthermore - this is what really upset parents - if it was reported to a school official that a student had partaken of communion wine, the “offense” would be treated as underage drinking and dealt with accordingly.
Thankfully, after enough people complained to the school board, the principal backed down.
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Micosil
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Tarpeian_Rock
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I never, not ever, saw a rosary worn around the neck until I saw it on photos of gang members. Never saw such in the arguably more reverent 1950’s. No religious sisters -who in fact wore large rosaries around their waists - ever suggested this as a pious practice. How did this become a thing?
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jeannetherese
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I wear mine around my neck, close to my heart, on occasion.
I’ve never found this to be an issue until I began spending time on the fora at CAF.
It’s a sacramental and I treat it as such; I do not wear it as jewelry and, unless I remove it for prayer, people are unlikely to notice it.
I’ve never found this to be an issue until I began spending time on the fora at CAF.
It’s a sacramental and I treat it as such; I do not wear it as jewelry and, unless I remove it for prayer, people are unlikely to notice it.
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LongingSoul
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I have the same experience as Tarpien. I’ve been in a very Catholic cultural environment for my whole 53 years and never seen or been told to wear my rosary beads around my neck in a demonstrative manner. At primary school we wore scapulars but under our clothes and at highschool we used to wear little crucifixes on our watch band or cross on a chain necklace was common outside of school time. I had some very reverent nuns as teachers when I was young and have lots of nuns and priests on my family tree.
Your experience of the demonstrative wearing of rosary beads around the neck is not at all as orthodox as you are making out but I really think that you know that unless you grew up in one of the offshoot Catholic cults.
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LongingSoul
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The first thing that struck me reading the article was that this was an already disturbed child due to family dysfunction. He’d only been introduced to the Church a couple of months ago so is most likely not even Catholic. His mother intimated that he’d demonstated an undesirable reaction to the school request…
*Shannon approved her son to stick up for himself.
“I am proud of him. Yes, I think he could’ve been a little more diplomatic, but yes, I am proud of him,” she said.*
There are so many things that demonstrate this not to be a genuine case of Catholic persecution as much as a school managing potential trouble. Has the local Catholic bishop made any comment?
*Shannon approved her son to stick up for himself.
“I am proud of him. Yes, I think he could’ve been a little more diplomatic, but yes, I am proud of him,” she said.*
There are so many things that demonstrate this not to be a genuine case of Catholic persecution as much as a school managing potential trouble. Has the local Catholic bishop made any comment?
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jeannetherese
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Hi LongingSoul,
I’m afraid that my post may have inadverently led to confusion, and hope that this will help to provide clarification.
I do not come from a cult background and, to the best of my knowledge, do not know people from such backgrounds. Next to my heart is under my clothes, much like many wear scapulars and other sacramentals.
Perhaps there is some cultural differentiation in these practices. I am part of a multi-ethnic community and many people in my community do wear sacramentals, including rosaries inside of their clothing. I am unsure as to how this is understood as a demonstrative practice.
Rosaries have been worn as part of the habits of various religious orders for centuries which might or might not help to work through the orthodox question, but this was not a question which I was attempting to raise with my post. Rather, I meant to share that it is something which is experienced in the area in which I live.
I hope that this is helpful.
May God bless you.
jeannetherese
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Dwyer
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