Lesbian teacher at preschool we love

[nodito]

Is same sex marriage legal in your state?

Yes, same sex marriage is legal in our state.

 

[jazzy0710]

As long as the teacher does not bring her private or social life into the class room I would hold my peace. Just keep in mind "what would Jesus do(or say)? If anything becomes questionable-then it would be time to go to the person(s) that are in charge. You know, you can not shield a child forever, but teach him well at home in a Christian manner when the time comes. Peace.

Agreed!

I had a teacher in grade 8 who was a lesbian. I didn’t learn of this though until very recently and it’s been 16 years since I was in grade 8.She taught my health class. She also taught grade 7 Math and Science and was also coach of the Girls Volleyball and Touch Football Team. Personally, I never noticed a ring on her finger. She never spoke of a Husband or wife or fiance or boyfriend or girlfriend. However, most of us suspected that she was a lesbian because of how she carried herself. She usually wore a dark blazer and dark dress pants and usually a dark dress shirt and loafers. Never wore makeup or nail polish or anything of the sort and she would act pretty masculine, especially on the football field.

Honestly though, she was one of the finest teachers that school had. Everyone got a long with her very well, both students and staff. She was very energetic and enthusiastic and it was very obvious that she loved her job and she had a gift for getting through to students that had trouble learning. We all missed her dearly when she retired!

 

[on_the_hill]

I think you have two options.

a) enroll your son in a different school.

b) keep him there and play it by ear.

There’s too much unknown to give you full advice. Like KendraDZ wrote, it’s unlikely there will be any exposure to the wife because spouses/family members rarely come into a classroom–just the same as my wife has never come into my office at work. This is particularly true at schools where they don’t want extra adults around because of safety and security.

And it’s also likely that anything untoward would go over his head.

However, it depends on the preschool and the attitude/outlook of the director and administrators. They might decide to use the new teacher’s living arrangement as a “teachable moment.”

I think a direct communication with the director wouldn’t be a good idea unless you’re ready to move your son out. Clearly, they already chose the teacher.

 

[MaryT777]

This is a pre-school. Not a baby-sitter or at home daycare. A person’s spouse doesn’t just hang out at work. The most a spouse would have any contact at a pre-school is dropping off the spouse/picking them up. Or possibly dropping off something, but that is usually handed to someone in the front office. Most schools have a curriculum that needs to be taught. I don’t remember talking about marriage of any sorts when I was teaching pre-k. And it wasn’t decades since I was in the classroom, either.

Kids are going to know people who are gay. Just like they are going to know plenty of other sinners and will sin themselves.

Good point, Kendra. Something to ponder upon for sure.

Mary.

 

[PaulinVA]

I think the issue is the confusion between “traditional” values and “modern” values.

We teach that there is a mommy and a daddy and they get married and have children. But, in the real world, children observe that there can be only a mommy, two mommies, two daddies, a mommy and daddy with different last names, etc.

This isn’t a preschool problem, per se. It’s a problem of living in a way that is, now, counter cultural. Because the kids see things that contradict what we tell them (it takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby), there is great confusion about life and the parents’ values.

That really is the problem. A parent of young children needs a way to deal with all of it, not just a gay preschool teacher.

 

[Anglewannabe]

First, I am a big believer that sin affects everyone consciously or not. I have seen to make people leave porn magazines where their infant can pick it up with the mentality ‘they are too young to know’ and it so wrong

Do I think this will negatively influence your son? Yes, I do. Even if this teacher keeps it to herself. Do I think you should pull you kid out of the program… sadly because what this teacher is doing is legal, I doubt you will successfully find a school without sinners.

I really think this is just a prime example of the issues us Catholics are facing and there is no quick solution

 

[gardenswithkids]

While all that outdoor time sounds nice, I’d be concerned and unlikely to re-enroll my child…

First off, I’d be concerned with high staff turnover, as you say both his teachers are leaving the program. High staff turnover often points to problems, and it was a huge problem at my oldest child’s daycare. Even if their reasons for leaving don’t relate to something going on in the program, when good people leave, things change. You loved the pre-school* this *year, but it won’t be the same next year since his teachers are leaving.

Next, he’s four now, so he’ll be five by the end of the next school year. I’d expect that he will remember some things from his preschool years. I have memories of people and things from the preschool I attended when I was four. If you entrust the care of your child to this school, his memories may include things this teacher says or does. She may or may not be trying to actively promote an agenda, but whn she simply shares information such as what she did over the weekend, your child will hear of her lifestyle choices. It’s also fairly normal for moms to talk about their children and for pre-school children to be interested in babies. Your son may pick up on the fact that his “teacher’s baby doesn’t have–or need-- a father.” But that’s not true because her child does have a father, somewhere, (because that’s the way biology and human reproduction works.) Somewhere out there is her child’s biological father.

That gets to my last point: I’d be concerned about what this teacher lifestyle could relay to your young *son *about the role she thinks *adult males *have in society.

 

[masondoggy]

I think what this all comes down to is what is more important? Your child’s early moral development or playing outdoors for preschool?

There are no guarantees that this teacher’s “married” status isn’t going to come up. In fact, chances are pretty good that it will especially considering they brought it up immediately when introducing her.

Don’t take any chances with your child. My kids were all raised in the faith and as soon as they were exposed to public school ideals, the older two rejected everything I taught them, including our beliefs regarding homosexuality. They bought the lie as soon as it was offered to them. They were TEENS when that happened, what do you think a preschooler is going to do if exposed to that lie?

Perhaps a better option would be to enroll your child in a Catholic preschool program and in boy/girl scouts as they’re old enough and make an effort to go out as a family for hikes in the woods or camping trips.

 

[signit]

Never married or had children, but my take is that instead of taking my child out I’d use it as a teaching moment.

Explain, when the time is right, that we as Catholics believe this, and your teacher and maybe some of the other teachers aren’t Catholics and don’t believe this. But just because your teacher believes that doesn’t mean we should believe it.

 

[Regina7]

I think what this all comes down to is what is more important? Your child’s early moral development or playing outdoors for preschool?

There are no guarantees that this teacher’s “married” status isn’t going to come up. In fact, chances are pretty good that it will especially considering they brought it up immediately when introducing her.

Don’t take any chances with your child. My kids were all raised in the faith and as soon as they were exposed to public school ideals, the older two rejected everything I taught them, including our beliefs regarding homosexuality. They bought the lie as soon as it was offered to them. They were TEENS when that happened, what do you think a preschooler is going to do if exposed to that lie?

Perhaps a better option would be to enroll your child in a Catholic preschool program and in boy/girl scouts as they’re old enough and make an effort to go out as a family for hikes in the woods or camping trips.

Agreed

 

[Mary_Estelle]

I feel sorry for the teacher as this open controversy is bound to get back some way or another and possibly cost her the job she has. Everyone is speculating as to what harm or influence the teacher will have on a four year old. We don’t know, but we make judgments. I said it before. What Pope Francis said, “Who am I to judge.” If Christ were among us today how would He judge? I do not condone SSM, but I hasitate to crucify.

 

[Aggie414]

I am not a parent so take this with a grain of salt.

I would have no problem with a teacher who is gay/lesbian as long as they keep their private life out of the classroom – that goes for a heterosexual teacher as well. In my opinion no teacher should be speaking about their private life to a bunch of pre-schoolers. If you should happen to run into the teacher in another setting – out at dinner, et cetera – and she’s with her partner, you could simply introduce your child to the teacher’s friend and leave it at that. It really shouldn’t bring up any questions unless the teacher is acting incredibly inappropriate in public – again, the same for a heterosexual couple.

If the teacher starts behaving badly in the classroom – discussing things that shouldn’t be discussed – then I would remove my child and let the school know why. But as long as the teacher is behaving appropriately, I don’t see the big deal. This is, of course, assuming that this is a secular school and not a religious-based one. Since the OP said he/she is going to be supplementing the preschool with a Catholic preschool, I’m assuming it’s a secular school.

 

[Regina7]

I feel sorry for the teacher as this open controversy is bound to get back some way or another and possibly cost her the job she has. Everyone is speculating as to what harm or influence the teacher will have on a four year old. We don’t know, but we make judgments. I said it before. What Pope Francis said, “Who am I to judge.” If Christ were among us today how would He judge? I do not condone SSM, but I hasitate to crucify.

How is not enrolling a child into that school “crucifying” that teacher?

Christ “judged” A LOT! How many times did he say “Repent and sin no more?” He didn’t say “yes, you are sinning but that’s ok.” So I imagine Christ would say to this teacher “Repent and sin no more.”

 

[Regina7]

I am not a parent so take this with a grain of salt.

I would have no problem with a teacher who is gay/lesbian as long as they keep their private life out of the classroom – that goes for a heterosexual teacher as well. In my opinion no teacher should be speaking about their private life to a bunch of pre-schoolers. If you should happen to run into the teacher in another setting – out at dinner, et cetera – and she’s with her partner, you could simply introduce your child to the teacher’s friend and leave it at that. It really shouldn’t bring up any questions unless the teacher is acting incredibly inappropriate in public – again, the same for a heterosexual couple.

If the teacher starts behaving badly in the classroom – discussing things that shouldn’t be discussed – then I would remove my child and let the school know why. But as long as the teacher is behaving appropriately, I don’t see the big deal. This is, of course, assuming that this is a secular school and not a religious-based one. Since the OP said he/she is going to be supplementing the preschool with a Catholic preschool, I’m assuming it’s a secular school.

The problem is that it’s very difficult to determine if teacher is behaving appropriately unless mom is in class as an aide or something. We can’t rely on a preschooler to determine or recall everything a teacher says.

 

[NSFrame]

Truly, what do you think the risk is here? Unless she comes up with a lesson plan around same-sex families (highly doubtful), it’s unlikely this lady’s sexual preference is going to be part of the preschool program. As far as hearing about the whole “woman and wife” or “two mommies” thing, well, he will be seeing this at some point when he’s still quite young, and you will have to provide a very simple age-appropriate explanation as you do to other sticky adult situations.

 

[Sue_D_Num]

I agree with the Church’s position on homosexuality and so called “marriage”. That being said, I think you maybe overreacting a bit. You don’t know what goes on in any one of these teachers homes. You don’t know what kind of sins are being committed. I agree that this teacher is living a sinful lifestyle, but that doesn’t mean everyone else, even in Catholic school, isn’t.

 

[gardenswithkids]

I feel sorry for the teacher as this open controversy is bound to get back some way or another and possibly cost her the job she has. Everyone is speculating as to what harm or influence the teacher will have on a four year old. *We don’t know, but we make judgments. * I said it before. What Pope Francis said, “Who am I to judge.” *** If Christ were among us today how would He judge? *** I do not condone SSM, but I hasitate to crucify.

Hi Mary Estelle,

The op asked for help in discerning if her son should return to a pre-school next year or not. The word “discern” relates to judging, but it’s something that parents must do in regards to making appropriate decisions in regards to child rearing.

How would Jesus judge, you ask?

Matthew 18:6 “But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.”

Matthew 19:14 “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.”

This is pre-school. Parents make judgments all the time about what they think best for their children, such as what activities to participate in or which school to attend. We don’t know that it would harm her child, but we don’t know that it would not harm her child either. We don’t want anything to get in the way of this child following Christ, nor do we want to scandalize the child or cause him to sin.

Children playing outside is wonderful! I *want *my children to play outside! But if playing outside in pre-school included a teacher exposing the children to her Druid practices in the forest and worship of false, then, well maybe some of us Catholics parents might conclude it wouldn’t be the best thing for our children’s soul. Many Catholics choose Catholic schools, including pre-schools, for our children–because we want our children to learn Catholic moral values right along with their A, B, C’s and the rest of their learning experiences. I suggest the op look at Catholic pre-schools instead of this one.

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Oh, and one more thing that Jesus said, from Matthew 10:16:

“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.”

Parents–we need to be wise.

 

[gardenswithkids]

I found a recent article related to this topic:
lifesitenews.com/news/lesbian-teacher-how-i-convince-kids-to-accept-gay-marriage-starting-at-4-ye

A primary grade lesbian teacher from an Ontario public school revealed in a workshop at a homosexual activist conference for teachers earlier this month how she uses her classroom to convince children as young as four to accept homosexual relationships.
…Strong related how she began with the junior kindergarten class.

…

“But difficult conversations are a part of what we do as teachers, right? And when these conversations are properly supported by teachers within the safety of the classroom, they provide a rich environment for our students as they unpack these complex social issues and they reflect on their own preconceptions, rights, of gender, sexuality, love, all these different things,” she said.

Strong related that as she was reading “King and King” in the junior kindergarten class as a springboard to discuss her sexuality with the kids, she got to the part where the two princes become ‘married’ when one of the boys suddenly shouted out: “They can’t do that! They can’t get married. They’re two boys.”

Recounted Strong: “And I said, ‘Oh, yeah, yeah, they can. It’s right here on page 12.”
…

“…so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves”. -Jesus, Matthew 10:16

Maybe the particular teacher in the op’s particular pre-school classroom has no agenda. I won’t judge that. But, if that news report above is correct, more than one homosexual activist has admitted to target young children to expose them to accepting homosexual lifestyle in the classroom. Some have taken workshops in how to do exactly that. Here’s another quote from the article above, mentioning another homosexual activist who now admits she was trying to indoctrinate children.

“I am here to tell you: All that time I said I wasn’t indoctrinating anyone with my beliefs about gay and lesbian and bi and trans and queer people? That was a lie,” wrote Canadian gay activist Sason Bear Bergman, a woman who identifies as a transgender man, in a March 2015 piece titled “I Have Come to Indoctrinate Your Children Into My LGBTQ Agenda (And I’m Not a Bit Sorry).” Bergman holds nothing back, stating she wants to make children “like us” even if that “goes against the way you have interpreted the teachings of your religion.”

 

[Megan7]

My four year old son is enrolled in a year-round outdoor forest preschool program that we both love. Basically, the kids spend all day outside hiking, sledding, digging, climbing trees, doing nature crafts, etc in the woods and on a nearby farm. It has been really good for his health this year, because he’s getting lots of exercise.

I’m not an outdoorsy person at all so I really like that rain or shine, I know DS is going to get play time outside. I had been planning to re-enroll him next year and also supplement with a more traditional preschool at our local Catholic school.

Here’s my dilemma. The current teachers are leaving and the program director has just announced their replacements. One of the new teachers was introduced as a mom who lives with her wife and young baby in a nearby town. I don’t like the idea of this teacher offhandedly making a comment about her “wife” and having DS notice. On the other hand, a lot of things go right over his head (for example, we announced our most recent pregnancy to friends and family in front of him several times and he didn’t realize what we were saying), and I hate to pull him out of a program that is otherwise really good for him if the immoral living situation of one of the teachers won’t be brought in to school. To what extent do you think preschoolers notice the personal lives of the preschool teachers that supervise them?

I’m inclined to approach the program director to express my concern. What would you do?

In my humble opinion, PLEASE TAKE YOUR CHILD OUT OF THE SCHOOL, ASAP!

Please read the link, listen to the videos, this is taking place all over the world, especially in the US & Canada! Please protect your child, protect his innocence. God Bless you!

May Our Blessed Lord HELP US ALL!!

“Lesbian teacher: How I convince kids to accept gay ‘marriage’, starting at 4-years-old”​

"A primary grade lesbian teacher from an Ontario public school revealed in a workshop at a homosexual activist conference for teachers earlier this month how she uses her classroom to convince children as young as four to accept homosexual relationships.

“And I started in Kindergarten. What a great place to start. It was where I was teaching. So, I was the most comfortable there,” Pam Strong said at the conference, attended by LifeSiteNews.

The conference, hosted by the homosexual activist organization Jer’s Vision, now called the Canadian Centre for Gender and Sexual Diversity, focused on the implementation of Bill 13 in Ontario classrooms. Bill 13, called by critics the ‘homosexual bill of rights,’ passed in June 2012 and gave students the right to form pro-gay clubs in their school, including Catholic ones, using the name Gay-Straight Alliance (GSA)."

‘Recruiting children? You bet we are’

lifesitenews.com/news/lesbian-teacher-how-i-convince-kids-to-accept-gay-marriage-starting-at-4-ye

youtube.com/watch?v=BWaldfvLyZI



You are NOT overreacting!

+Peace!

 

[alphawoman]

I’m not surprised about the Ontario piece. The Canada Research Chair responsible to curriculum development, Ben Levin, was recently convicted of accessing child pornography and counseling an undercover police officer on a chat forum to abuse her daughter in graphic detail. The current premier, Kathleen Wynne, who was Minister of Education prior to being elected, is an open lesbian who has introduced legislation that requires all schools, including Catholic schools, to allow the creation of homosexual clubs. Levin and Wynne recently released a controversial update to the 1999 physed and sex education curriculum, which teaches gender fluidity and invisible differences in grade 3, masturbation in grade 6, and discusses anal sex in grades 7 and 8. These are OFFICIAL curriculum guidelines!

I’ve toured a few local public schools, and the halls are replete with anti-homophobia posters, posters on the importance of “tolerance” of various gender identities (LGBT, etc). It is a poisoned environment.