I never worked for the governement, but my maternal grandfather whoem I was very close to , who lived till I was 37, was the auditor for the Michigan Department of Natural resourses. Before that who owned several businesses, and he freelanced on his CPA credentials. I learned very much from him, about the aspects of all 3.
I really don’t care what you have learned form the internet. I don’t care.it’s not my responsibility, and I don’t want to pay for it.
So, you know government is more efficient than private industry because your grandfather worked for the government?
Come on now surely you’re smarter than that? So because I believe that government shouldn’t have a role in every single aspect of our lives then that means there can be no legitimate role for government at all? That my friend is a logical fallacy and you know it.
Where in the world do you get the idea that a business has to do anything for the “good of society”?
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And I know all about applying for jobs via the internet - I did that from December 2008 until I was hired in 2010 … I know all about ‘cutting expenses’ and using savings - un-employment and payng bills … I know all about being in financial insecurity …
We do not need more and more government programs - enslaving people -
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Fire protection and health portection go hand in hand. Paramedics afterall are based in FIRE stations. I think not having national health care is idocy quite frankly. There is nothing in our constitution that the conservatives worship more than God that says governement owes you fireprotection.
Name calling is not appropriate … Perhaps you should ask yourself why you cannot get the assistance you need? Why can’t you provide proof that you are un-employed? What ‘proof’ were they seeking … what charity did you apporach? Also, why have you not approached your local parish for assistance [or minimally assistance in gaining assistance] … Is there not one doctor in your parish that could either look at you for minimal cost or direct you to where you could get assitance …
Not those who are ready to help …The government will give you emergency fire protection just like it will give you emergency healthcare. The government will not give you preventative fire protection.
Society provides them infrastructure, police protection, fire protection, tax breaks, and you think they don’t owe something in return??!!! They will not owe society when all those things are taken back from them.Where in the world do you get the idea that a business has to do anything for the “good of society”?
The complete lack of charity in this thread is ridiculous. I’ve never seen a poster attacked for making a decision to have purchased a $200 computer and affording $10 a month for dial up access.Name calling is not appropriate … Perhaps you should ask yourself why you cannot get the assistance you need? Why can’t you provide proof that you are un-employed? What ‘proof’ were they seeking … what charity did you apporach? Also, why have you not approached your local parish for assistance [or minimally assistance in gaining assistance] … Is there not one doctor in your parish that could either look at you for minimal cost or direct you to where you could get assitance …
For example: My dentist contacted me last year [about something else - really] He is a fellow parishioner - but I thought he was calling because I had not returned the office calls … when I asked him if he was calling because I had not returned the call - he asked why I had not? Now I have not had dental insurance for over 15 years - but the reason why I had not returned the calls was because I was un-employed … that dentist told me to come in … he did all of the work I needed done and did not charge me - and it was more then just a routine cleaning.
Our parish St Vicent de Paul conference maintains a food back and provide assistance with rent, utility and other assistance to everyone - non-parishioners and parishioners. Our Knights of Columbus have helped variouspeople obtain lots of needs - medical, rental etc … even moving people when they have been evicted … many parishes have hosted fund raisers for medical care xpenses …
Maybe you are the reason you can’t get the help you need
Why the mean-spirited lectures about personal responsibility to aspawloski4th and overt disregard for the welfare of your fellow citizens?
Take a random business- now imagine that business just shut down. All those employed there are now unemployed. All those with contracts to buy goods or services over a long period of time now must look elsewhere. All those who invested in that business are now significantly poorer. Local, state, and federal governments now will be unable to collect revenue form that business.
If you don’t want to pay for it leave go to a country full of Joe sixpacks and walking conformist zombies. me I think everyone should be reading what Im reading because America is getting to be a country of unectucated ignorant know nothings. When someone wants to self educate we should encourage it at ALL and any cost. Those who dont like that type of thinking should go back to the dark ages where they belong.
While I personally think that 200 dollars as a one time purchase and 10 dollars a month for internet is an economically wise decision for someone who does not live within 30 seconds of somewhere with free internet access, the general idea is that if you buying things that you can live without you should not be telling people you need more money.
And the truth is that the government does not “Give” you this … it is paid for by taxpayers … mostly through property taxes [though some jurisdictions may collect this funding in aother ways] … thus the landowners [and renters through the payment of the rents] directly pay for the services. There is a good in providing fire department services, containing fires from spreading, etc … however the government does not insure your property - replacing the personal property or structures … that cost is born by the owner …
The people who patronize the business make a choice to do so. They are part of society.
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In America one is permitted to set priorities for spending their funds. Some people give a higher priority to internet connections and computers than they give to their own health care. When they then want me to pay for their health care, it is reasonable to question their priorities.