Let's Take a Look Back on Exactly How Kamala Harris Treated Brett Kavanaugh

[RhodesianSon]

many were worried that his allegiance would be first to the Pope and only secondarily to the US.

That’s the way it should be for a good catholic. Loyalty to God and His Church should come first. And Catholics shouldn’t want it any other way.

 

[Victoria33]

Since Kamala Harris was questioning a potential district judge whose duty it to uphold the law of the land, it is not that strange that she would ask him about his membership in an organization that is opposed to the law of the land. (Note: being a Catholic, I am also opposed to those particular laws of the land as that nominee. But then I am not a nominee for district judge and don’t expect to be.) When Jack Kennedy was running for President as the first Catholic President, many were worried that his allegiance would be first to the Pope and only secondarily to the US. He was very clear when he said he is an an American first and the Catholic second. If he had not said that, he may not have been elected.

Constitution forbids “religious tests.” So, perhaps her whole line of questioning was out-of-order and unconstitutional. You can ask questions but she seemed to be invoking religion too.

Buescher eventually was confirmed, and at the behest of Nebraska senator Ben Sasse, the Senate later voted unanimously to reaffirm the constitutional clause forbidding religious tests for public officeholders. But the fact remains that Harris was guilty of reprehensible anti-Catholic bigotry, and there’s no reason to believe her views have changed.

So, I guess, one can’t say things like, “because you are a ________ fill in the blank, you don’t believe in eating pork”.

 

[Victoria33]

That’s the way it should be for a good catholic. Loyalty to God and His Church should come first. And Catholics shouldn’t want it any other way.

As said, maybe it does come down to the “Religious Tests” clause, maybe I can’t say, “because you are a Catholic, you don’t believe in eating meat on Fridays during the Lenten season”. I think that’s what we are getting at. She seems to be invoking religion into the conversation. About same-sex marriage too.

She definitely went into that direction because she’s talking about someone being a member of the Knights of Columbus. Maybe just for being Catholic too, I’d have to read the whole statement.

You can easily query people about how they feel about abortion. Coupling it with religion, what she said can be seen as a smear on religion.

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

oh please, and you @KMC

this is what politicians all seem to do these days, focus on the opponent take down instead of real policy. make a lot of empty promises.

I would like to see a politician with real christian values that include loving your neighbour as yourself.
Historic sex misconduct allegations are in the Republican candidate past also.
Muddying those waters could just come back to bite republican presidents too, especially those who ask female reporters to touch his hair, or who are known friends / acquaintences of convicted and detained sex predators.

I completely agree, but you specifically called out one candidate and campaign. If you detest it on both sides and want a candidate with Christian values, why did you omit the Catholic candidate who posed as a gay wedding pastor, and seeks to undo every abortion restriction known to man? Being Christian is more than just saying pretty words on twitter. At least be even-handed, especially in a criticism that clearly should be applied to ALL candidates - that of negative campaigning.

 

[RidgeSprinter]

Since we are taking a look back. Do anyone really blame Harris when you have stuff like this that has been verified:
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Did Republicans Actually Say These Things About Rape?

A list collects controversial and embarrassing statements about rape made by Republican politicians.

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Any one of these quotes can be googled independently for verification.

 

[KMC]

So we should not vote for those Republicans for office…I won’t! You still voting for Biden/Harris?

 

[Victoria33]

So? Clayton Williams? Yes, let’s go back 30 years. Is this all one has?

Anyone can browse twitter for 5 minutes or look up images on the web for controversial comments? So what?

Democrats Vote Against Measure to Stop Infanticide, Care for Babies Born Alive After Abortions - LifeNews.com

House Democrats today defeated an amendment to a bill that would stop infanticide and provide medical care and treatment for babies who are born alive after botched abortions. nancy pelosi and her colleagues in the House have blocked a vote on the Born Alive bill 81 times on the House floor and...

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Cutting to the crux of the matter.

 

[WingedHussar]

Excellent, can we now start interrogating Muslim candidates about their thoughts on Sharia law? In any case, this just showcases the problems with a pluralistic society.

 

[josie_L]

So we CONTINUE to test the loyalty of practicing Catholics with this vein of questioning.

That is bigotry.

Catholics no less than practicing Protestants, Muslims or Jews . . . etc., should not be questioned in this manner.

And the Knights of Columbus are no more likely to overturn the law of the land than members of the Catholic Church wo follow Church teachings.

And if laws were never meant to be overturned than you have more faith in the law than HISTORY calls for.

 

[umamibella]

She won’t get any sympathy from me on this account. You haven’t pointed out one thing in the OP about what the Republicans did. Any falsehood, any attack in the OP, it’s just saying “I don’t like it”.

Sympathy is a wasted negative emotion. Empathy is more productive.
Whether a person wants to vote either way my point stands,
This is a game of who can cut the tall poppy down faster. It is going exactly as predicted as soon as she was announced.

Those engaging with this article, all the memes, amd other acroutmemts of the attempt at dismantling a person up for election are just engaging in the cut the tall poppy down game along with those pulling the strings.

Surely there is some media around focussing on what people can bring to their office that is beneficial and discussing their past and present attributes that will help in their office and decision making.

Catholics should not be engaging in aiding and abetting character assassination and dwelling on what katy or kevin did in the past.

 

[qui_est_ce]

That was so unfair to Kavanaugh. Maybe one is not in the USA; but these were live nationally televised trials or interrogations on nothing but the weakest of allegations. There wasn’t a shred of evidence to support any of this and yet, the whole country went through this. I think the word is “witch hunt”. I assume this “Russia affair” was more of the same ol.

I would hope that everyone knows the situation of which we speak which was a hot item right here on these forums.

We are talking about real people here. Put people through this without anything backing up the allegations?? And yes, I know I am repeating myself.

Some of what we talk about, a lot of us don’t even really want to go into so much depth into the details. How does it help me at the end of the day??

It’s just one thing to just make up something about anyone and it could be done to anyone at all.

Meanwhile, his accuser, Blaise-Ford is all tied up into Planned Parenthood…this whole incident was disgraceful.

I can’t watch. It’s too painful.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

Since Kamala Harris was questioning a potential district judge whose duty it to uphold the law of the land, it is not that strange that she would ask him about his membership in an organization that is opposed to the law of the land. (Note: being a Catholic, I am also opposed to those particular laws of the land as that nominee. But then I am not a nominee for district judge and don’t expect to be.) When Jack Kennedy was running for President as the first Catholic President, many were worried that his allegiance would be first to the Pope and only secondarily to the US. He was very clear when he said he is an an American first and the Catholic second. If he had not said that, he may not have been elected.

Constitution forbids “religious tests.” So, perhaps her whole line of questioning was out-of-order and unconstitutional. You can ask questions but she seemed to be invoking religion too.

“Seemed to” is a subjective interpretation. Objectively she mentioned a religious organization only as an explanation of her real question, which was “will you uphold the law of the land with regard to abortion”.

But the fact remains that Harris was guilty of reprehensible anti-Catholic bigotry, and there’s no reason to believe her views have changed.

Again, a subjective interpretation.

So, I guess, one can’t say things like, “because you are a ________ fill in the blank, you don’t believe in eating pork”.

This would be a valid question to ask a nominee for district judge only if the requirement for eating pork were the law of the land, or if the nominee’s position was that because of his beliefs, he wanted to prevent others from eating pork. So you see, you picked a very good analogy indeed. Thank you.

That’s the way it should be for a good catholic. Loyalty to God and His Church should come first. And Catholics shouldn’t want it any other way.

However, as I said, if Kennedy has said that when he was running, he would not have been elected. That is just a fact. No moral judgement is implied.

And slavery was the law of the land at one time.

And when slavery was finally outlawed, it was through the legal process of the US Constitution, not through district judges deciding to rule against the current law of the land.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Excellent, can we now start interrogating Muslim candidates about their thoughts on Sharia law?

That would be appropriate only to the extent that the questioning involved whether the candidate personally supported aspects of Sharia law that are contrary to US law.

And the Knights of Columbus are no more likely to overturn the law of the land than members of the Catholic Church wo follow Church teachings.

Good. Then all the nominee has to do is answer truthfully that he would not do that and the question has been adequately answered. End of questioning.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Does it matter? I was told were supposed to believe all women.

In my understanding of that expression, a conviction is not implied by the claims of the alleged victim. If a person came running up yelling “Help! Someone is trying to get me!” That person may be granted enough credibility for temporary protection, but not necessarily enough to include the alleged pursuer to be considered guilty and worthy of having forced used against them. For that, there would need to be due process, or for the person in question to be witnessed trying to commit a violation.

In a scenario, when someone runs up asking for help, I don’t think there are many that will say “well I don’t know that you really need help. I need for you to present more evidence to me so that I can take it into consideration. Then I will render a decision on whether or not to help you.” Such scrutiny is employed when deciding to take away someone else’s liberty, but would be misplaced when someone is in need of assistance and support.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Not sure what you expect to change from the previous 30 years at least, or why you single out one candidate, unless you have a bias against them unfairly?

It’s not the only thing, but Trump’s reversal of the Obama HHS Mandate requiring Catholic charities, including the Little Sisters of the Poor, to provide abortifacients to their workers or face impossible fines is sufficient for me to single him out for my vote. Biden was VP at the time the Mandate was signed and voiced no complaint. In fact, he says he’ll reinstate it.

That’s not my only reason for voting for Trump, but it will suffice.

 

[josie_L]

Thanks for missing the point entirely.

 

[josie_L]

I did and it was horrible. A friggin three ringed circus with clowns shouting their hate at Kavanaugh.

 

[YADA]

I take on Biden for what he will do once elected:

• Continue to kill babies in the womb and force tax payers to cover the cost
• Force the Little Sisters of the Poor to provide abortions and birth control pills
  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...king-democratic-support-for-religious-liberty
• Continue the downward slide to socialistic policies that continue to destabilize nuclear families
• Devastate the economy by raising taxes and increasing regulations that negatively impacts business growth

 

[1cthlctrth]

The bottom line is that Democrats are trying to keep Catholic morality out of the courts. They want Judges who will make up their own laws that often oppose Catholicism.

 

[JimG]

When Jack Kennedy was running for President as the first Catholic President, many were worried that his allegiance would be first to the Pope and only secondarily to the US. He was very clear when he said he is an an American first and the Catholic second. If he had not said that, he may not have been elected.

Yet no ministerial association ever required Jimmy Carter of George Bush, or Bill Clinton ever to make a statement essentially putting their religious beliefs in second place. That was only required of a Catholic nominee.