Let's talk about Mormonism

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Yeah, the invisible and visible church. Mormonism is all about the visible church and has no concept of the invisible church.
 
I’m not trying to push you. You invited me to see your side, I invited you to see the Catholic side.
 
I think in someways especially in the Catholic Church that they lost sight of its role in protecting different kinds of of perspectives of God and rejected and killed people whom they disagreed with. What is a person to do when they are faced with that kind of opposition. From the very institution that was tasked with helping them have greater understanding.
 
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He also condemned the pharasies and said harlots would inherit Heaven first
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I understand you are very early in the process but you need to learn the Catholic Church uses the bible differently than the LDS. The LDS take most of it in a literal sense and discard what doesn’t fit the LDS story.

The Catholic Church reads the bible contextual sense. Who is the audience? What is the culture? What is the time frame? Who is the writer? We believe the bible is truly the inspired Word of God, Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh.

I would suggest as an RCIA participant you get a Catholic bible, with all the books and not edited by the LDS, and read it without an LDS lens. Read whole chapters to gain context.
 
Continue to suffer persecution from the very institution designed by God to protect to be abused using Gods name?
 
I don’t think the Catholics have ever had a wide-scale persecution of Mormons, considering Mormonism arose in nineteenth-century Protestant America.
 
The Mormon conundrum. The Church didn’t do enough to protect Truth and fell into apostasy, but it’s evil because it did too much to protect Truth, and therefore that is a sign of the apostasy.

We do see protecting doctrine is super important. Popes cannot change doctrine. Judging people’s actions from the past, in our modern view of things, is a bit more complicated than “they should have not have done X”.

Some things, Popes have apologized for and asked for forgiveness, on behalf of the Church. Sometimes people find it hard to forgive.
 
I am doing all of that. I have the Catholic Bible. I have the CCC. I attend a Catholic women’s Bible study. I came here initially to gain greater insight about something that was mentioned there that I wanted to know more about. Have you given mormons the same kind look. Or are you continuing to condem and seek to destroy the same way the Catholics did in the past?
 
Not now but they have a rich history of it in the past or do you not know your own history.
 
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Why Did God or Jesus have empathy to the harlot because the Pharisees were not taking care of them as they should have and they were given no other option.
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OH, what a good question and topic.

In the OT, God refers to Israel as the Harlot! A metaphor, of a woman who was not faithful to her husband. Israel was not faithful to God.

God indeed, has shown mercy over and over again, to Israel.

The Pharisees then, in Jesus time, are trying to be all that and a bag of chips, acting like they (who represent Israel) have no sins. Jesus is reminding them of the mercy that God has shown them, the one’s who God named “Harlots”.

In Jesus time, a girl who was orphaned, or a woman whose husband died, and were not cared for by another male of the family, would turn to prostitution in order to survive. Jesus is also calling out the Pharisees, who are not caring for the widow and the orphan, as the Law demands. In other words, he his calling them out on their hypocrisy, in more ways than one.

We shouldn’t confuse God’s mercy, as God condoning sinful behavior.
 
This view is changing. Catholics have already accepted other Protestant churches baptisms they are trying to once agin take their rightful place as safe place to worship. I admire that that is why I am coming. I don’t judge the church by its past but you want to condem mormons for theirs and make it look ugly and repulsive. I don’t want to do that to your church. I want to be Catholic. But I want the same for my people and the only way to become truly the body of Christ is to understand the value of the head and the hand or the foot or the skin. And not think we are ugly as an intestine. We are a beautiful intestine we are exactly what an intestine is supposed to be.
 
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I am doing all of that. I have the Catholic Bible. I have the CCC. I attend a Catholic women’s Bible study. I came here initially to gain greater insight about something that was mentioned there that I wanted to know more about. Have you given mormons the same kind look. Or are you continuing to condem and seek to destroy the same way the Catholics did in the past?

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Not now but they have a rich history of it in the past or do you not know your own history.
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You know nothing of me or what I know and don’t know. However in multiple posts on this forum I’ve learned you are studying the Catholic faith, you were raised LDS, you still hold on to a great deal of LDS thought & teaching, and you still use typical LDS non answer/loaded question type responses.

I will pray for you to continue on your journey and for you to truly become Catholic. I understand how difficult it is to leave an organization such as the LDS, when family & social interactions are completely intertwined with your belief system.

I never considered becoming Mormon as I knew from the time I first learned what the LDS were I knew it wasn’t a true Christian church. While I’ve not always been Catholic, I have always been Christian.
 
Correct I believe that is what God is saying to his people through polygamy do what ever you need to do to take care of each other so people do not have to sin.
 
It is lustful men and immature men and women who want to make that concept dirty. Where there is one man for one woman that is God’s preference. But you believe that Joseph was Mary’s husband and that didn’t make her unholy. This is not about sex it is about husbanding. A way to keep his daughters pure and protected and provided for.
 
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I had the same thing going on with Catholicism, but when I see that Popes have said, mea culpa, and asked for forgiveness on behalf of the Church, then I see, that there is a desire to follow God and forsake sin. We are all sinners, who seek forgiveness. None of us are above reproach. Not even our Popes and other beloved clergy.

Mormonism, continues to defend the sins of its past as divinely commanded. Polygamy is still a doctrine that is defended. I have hope that there will come a day, when the leaders of the Mormon Church will remove section 132 of the D&C, and say, oops, that was a mistake, please forgive us. Miracles do happen!
 
Yes, I know that is what Mormons believe. Catholicism does not teach us that God commands sin in order to achieve a good.
 
I wish they would discribe its purpose as above but they have not yet apologized as they should the best they have done so far is stop teaching it over the pulpit and stop putting it in their manuels and excommunicate the members who live it. What more do they need to do in your opinion to be forgiven of their sins?
 
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