LGBT Day of Silence -April 19th-will your child participate?

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originally posted by Allegra
I hope it is understood that this is actually somewhat of an urban legend. 99.9999% of schools do NOT give out BC pills without parental permission. In fact, 99.9999% of school do NOT give out BC pills at all. In the vast majority of schools, a girl can’t even get IB Profin for her cramps without a phone call to mom.
How come we hear of these reports. Title X money goes to school base clinics where condoms and birth control are dispatched so I thought. In New England many high schools have school based clinics.
During the 2011-2012 school year, 12,721 doses of Plan B were handed out to students as young as 14, the New York Posts reports.
PORTLAND, Maine – Pupils at a city middle school will be able to get birth conrol pills and patches at their student health center after the local school board approved the proposal Wednesday evening
For Immediate Release: April 10, 2013
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Nearly 75 state and district school superintendents, principals, and other school
officials from across the nation today joined the National Assembly on School-Based Health Care
(NASBHC) in calling on Congress to support school-based health centers (SBHCs).
nasbhc.org/site/c.ckLQKbOVLkK6E/b.7453519/k.BEF2/Home.htm
Nearly 2,000 school-based health centers operate nationwide, according to the most recent National Assembly on School-Based Health Care census. Most are open every day school is in session…
Despite the growing number of school-based health care during the past three decades, the issue of providing reproductive health care at school-based health centers continues to spark controversy.
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They do seem to have a basic form that all parents probably sign at the beginning of the school year.
 
Why have the schools been able to give out pills, etc to girls. It seems on one hand they have to report and on the other they give out medications without parental consent?
When a school is even allowed to dispense medications or medical care to a student, the school employees giving the care still have to abide by state and federal rules concerning whether or not a particular student can give their own consent and whether or not the school may keep information about the health care private from the student’s legal guardian.

The school cannot give medical care to a student, however, and then require the student to keep that care private. Furthermore, it is not “the school” that provides the care. It is someone employed by the school who is legally licensed to provide that care in that state. A teacher is not licensed to dispense medications nor give medical care, nor does a teacher enjoy the same kind of legal protections as a health care provider. Teachers are likewise not licensed to practice as therapists and as far as I know they never enjoy the legal protections and responsibilities of licensed therapists. If a school wants to provide counseling with legal protections, they have to employ someone to whom their state gives legal protection. A classroom teacher is not in that category.

Finally, the school can never force a student to give consent to therapeutic counseling, even when the student is old enough to give their own consent, let alone force the student to undergo such counseling as part of a course of study required for graduation. Therefore, the teacher who said that she both required classroom discussions and threatened punishments for students who failed to maintain confidentiality about the discussions was totally out-of-bounds. If she gets caught doing that, she could face serious professional consequences, and I don’t know of a state where that is not true.
 
The city-run program originally extended contraceptive services to 14 more schools, or another 5 percent of students, but one campus has since dropped out…Only 1 percent to 2 percent of parents returned a form to opt out of the program. The form allowed them to select any or all of four types of reproductive services that they did not want their child to receive, including emergency contraception, birth control pills, pregnancy testing or condoms.
It is an Opt-out program. New York has it. New England schools have it so I can’t say for other parts of the country.
 
Teachers wore rainbow ribbons. (8000 schools)

I wonder what would happen if teachers wore two tiny feet.
I wore my “two tiny feet” yesterday in the classroom, just for you. 🙂

As usual, nothing bad happened.
 
Well, as an 18-year old college myself, I nor anyone I know participated…the college was closed because of a snowstorm, so…
 
How come we hear of these reports. Title X money goes to school base clinics where condoms and birth control are dispatched so I thought. In New England many high schools have school based clinics.

nasbhc.org/site/c.ckLQKbOVLkK6E/b.7453519/k.BEF2/Home.htm

They do seem to have a basic form that all parents probably sign at the beginning of the school year.
In my opinion, they are sensationalized by both sides of the issue. Pro-birth control people want everyone to think that this is normal and should be standard. Anti birth control people want to stir up mistrust of all public school systems. In all of these cases, the pills are not given by the school, but by a clinic that is run on school grounds, which the parents have a right to opt out of. These clinics hire licensed medical personnel who give out these pills. The question should be, “Why do these states allow medical professionals to give birth control pills to children without an examination and without parental permission?” In these states, it is also possible for children to go into clinics off of their school property and get the same pills, without parental permission. The fact that they’ve managed to insinuate themselves onto school grounds is probably due to the school board not wanting to pay for their own licensed nurses and so they are willing to make a deal with these shady clinics in order to provide some sort of medical care to the students without have to actually pay for it. Again, all it would take is enough outraged parents at the school board meeting and that would be the end of that.
 
originally posted by Allegra
In my opinion, they are sensationalized by both sides of the issue. Pro-birth control people want everyone to think that this is normal and should be standard. Anti birth control people want to stir up mistrust of all public school systems. In all of these cases, the pills are not given by the school, but by a clinic that is run on school grounds, which the parents have a right to opt out of. These clinics hire licensed medical personnel who give out these pills. The question should be, “Why do these states allow medical professionals to give birth control pills to children without an examination and without parental permission?” In these states, it is also possible for children to go into clinics off of their school property and get the same pills, without parental permission. The fact that they’ve managed to insinuate themselves onto school grounds is probably due to the school board not wanting to pay for their own licensed nurses and so they are willing to make a deal with these shady clinics in order to provide some sort of medical care to the students without have to actually pay for it. Again, all it would take is enough outraged parents at the school board meeting and that would be the end of that.
There is a mistrust of the school system because they have welcomed these clinics on their school grounds.

Medical personnel giving out birth control have no business at any public school. The state has no business in giving money for birth control (Title X) for any public school.

This is about parents and their own children. That is why they make it an opt-out. Many parents won’t read or don’t care and want other medical coverage in case of emergency so they opt-in.

Totally agree with you that parents should attend school board meeting and make their opinions heard. They will try to marginalize the few parents who complain but at least they have the guts speak out…
 
It turns out in our area that it was not really a day of silence. A student group at at least one high school had a “Breaking the Silence” reception after school, presumably so that the uncomfortable silence would not have to be extended over into varsity sports contests later in the day.

As it also coincided with National Hanging Out Day–a day dedicated to educating people about the benefits of using a clothesline instead of a clothes dryer–and with the suspense of the Boston lock-down, preceded by the horror of the Boston Marathon bombings and the West, Texas, explosions. Except for this forum, I’d have never heard about it this year.
 
Just wondering how many parents on these forums will allow their chillden to particpate? And if so why?

dayofsilence.org/
I am against bullying of anyone, but unfortunately I fear this is being used to advance political issues.

The college I am currently attending for post-bacc courses, UTSA (San Antonio), is participating in it (I just walked passed their booth on the campus greens).
 
Interesting. I have a rule that is diametrically opposed to that rule. When any adult tells you that you have to keep quiet about anything, especially one in authority, then that is when you need to tell your parents. You are to never keep secrets like this, especially about sex. This teachers rule is the same tact taken by sexually predators. If she was as informed any Catholic volunteer who has undergone sex abuse awareness training, she would know this. Her rule is one of the major warning signs of a sexual predator.

If I was barred from looking into this classroom as a parent, then I would be having the police or child welfare attend to the matter. I would not make a good public school parent.
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Absolutely correct. In fact, as part of the Virtus trainging the Catholic teachers and volunteers take (and that parents are supposed to be offered) a teacher/coach or other adult who tells a minor not to tell his/her parents something is to be reported immediately. It’s a huge red flag that the adult is trying to exert undue control over the minor. It may not be sexual (ie a sexual predator); it may be psychological or ideological. But it is VERY wrong and probably a violation of school district rules as well as the professional ethics rules for the teacher.
 
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