Liberalism and its effect on the Church

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As most of you are aware by now, there is scarecely a phrase in the English language as horrific as “Social Justice”. It brings up images of enormously expensive failed social programs, illogical immigration policies, revolving door justice for violent felons, and hiring and promotion of unqualified minorities.
A few decades ago a mutant form of Christianity developed called the “social gospel” that seemed to embody these principles. The effect in most mainstream protestant churches was that the church split into a “conservative” and a “Liberal” branch, for example, the LCMS and the ELC in my denomination.
Another effect of this was an enormous decline in church attendace as people decided to either stop going to church or seek a denomination that kept itself clean of political issues.
To what effect has this changed the Catholic Church? Has it seen a split into :Conservative” and ‘Liberal” parishes?
 
In the West, liberalism has actually become Orthodoxy. To NOT be liberal is to be a very low and despised form of life. You will be accused of narrow mindedness, rigidity, bigotry, phobic, and it just goes down hill from there. American Catholic Churches would have to have some sort of anti-liberal offensive going on in order to escape the effects of this modern epidemic, which of course they don’t. Therefore a better question might be are there ANY Catholic Churches that have avoided the contagion of Liberalism? If so, HOW?
 
I have no problem with Social Justice. The bible is clear that there must be a Social Justice dimension to what we must do to be Christians - to care for the widow, the prisoner and the orphan. That is the basic element of the idea of Social Justice. The problem lies not in considering the social structures of society to determine if they are just or not. the problem lies when people want to separate that from the same source of spiritual life that must animate the rest of our lives - faith in and worship of Jesus Christ. Too many people, including Catholics want to make Social Justice an effort of their undertaking with the context of Christ and His Church, instead of a expression of their faith in Christ. I think they completely fail to understand grace, and really do believe that their salvation comes from their own good works they do in their acceptance of, and efforts in social justice. Left leaning political philosophy has become their real religion and their salvation comes in using cloth bags at the grocery store and driving a hybrid. If they truly believed in the Social Justice the Church teaches, they would be fighting same sex “marriage” as hard as they fight against global warming. The fact that they dont is sadly the evidence that Liberalism is their real god. We must pray for the many, many Catholics who are being so deceived by the evil one.
 
OOPs, I meant to say "Too many people, including Catholics want to make Social Justice an effort of their undertaking withOUT the context of Christ and His Church, instead of a expression of their faith in Christ.
 
robert_chacon said:
OOPs, I meant to say "Too many people, including Catholics want to make Social Justice an effort of their undertaking withOUT the context of Christ and His Church, instead of a expression of their faith in Christ.
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Damn good post anyhow Robert.
 
Roger12345 said:
As most of you are aware by now, there is scarecely a phrase in the English language as horrific as “Social Justice”. It brings up images of enormously expensive failed social programs, illogical immigration policies, revolving door justice for violent felons, and hiring and promotion of unqualified minorities…
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Not for me it doesn’t.

For me it represents the clarion call to go out and make a difference in the world.

It means seeing the face of Christ in the poor.

It means, more practically, working with and advocating for the kids in my Teacher Adviser group who are native, or immigrants, suicidal, or who have FASD and PTSD, or cognitive delays or psychiatric disorders so that they can achieve their best and reach their potential in a huge school which is largely indifferent to their existence.
 
There’s a fine line between social justice, and social justice.

Catholic Social Justice is done right, and it works, it’s good, and it’s wholesome, it’s holy.

When people say social justice now, or in certain environments, they usually mean something completely opposite. Many Catholics even, use it in the wrong term (even though they realise it), and it’s a blanket to cover the true nature: liberalism and dissent. So, instead of seeing the hungry being fed and the sick nurtured, the persecuted at peace and the dangered in safety, they’d prefer this:
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Social Justice imo, and in my limited experience, shouldn’t have political motivation. Social justice, truly, is carried out by thousands upon thousands of faithful Catholic organisations, and individual Catholics. Not only us, but other ecclesial communites and even the Orthodox are doing their share. Liberalism only taints and corrupts social justice to be as I said above: a push for female priests, same-sex unions and marriages, etc…
 
Yes, if you want to start a hot argument, social justice is your topic.
 
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