Liberals admit the OF is a fabrication. Do Conservatives?

[jimmy]

I, too, attend the EF. exclusively, but I feel that both Masses need to be celebrated at this time. If the Novus Ordo is to “die”, let it die a normal death caused by disinterest. As I look around at my Latin Mass parish, I see that more & more of our congregation is made up of high school students & young parents with 3-4 small children in tow. Every Sunday, a couple of Seminarians come. I think that this trend shows us where the Novus Ordo will be when these small children have families of their own…but that needs to happen organically & that will take time.

IMO. the men who will be key players are the ones who mingle with the Catholics in the pew, who Baptize the babies & oversee the running of the attached schools…the Parish Priests:

A Return to the Latin Mas
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"Nearly two generations of Catholics now have grown up in a post-Vatican II world, worshipping in a church that celebrates mass in their local languages and, at least to some extent, embraces modern customs as much as it once rejected them.

So it seemed anathema when the Vatican confirmed recently that Pope Benedict XVI would relax restrictions on celebrating the 16th-century Tridentin Mass, citing “a new and renewed” interest in the ancient Latin liturgy, especially among younger Catholics.

Given the fierce fight that preceded Vatican II—(I’ve yet to be told what this “fierce fight” was all about & assume they are speaking of the fact that the Church silenced some very vocal & very heterodox theologians, Henre de Lubac, Yves Congor & Karl Rahner in the 50’ s. It probably also included the program started in France using “worker priests”.)the liturgical and doctrinal reforms of the mid-1960s that sought to make the church more accessible—a similar war would seem needed to overturn them. But a movement is building at seminaries nationwide to do just that: In addition to restoring the Latin mass, young priests are calling for greater devotion to the Virgin Mary, more frequent praying of the rosary, and priests turning away from the congregation as they once did. Perhaps most controversially, they also advocate a dimished role for women, who since Vatican II have been allowed to participate in the mass as lay altar servers and readers.

The words in blue are my own.

de Lubac and Congar were silenced by the Jesuit order, not by Rome. They were actually encouraged by Rome.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

The fact that Liberals admit the OF is a fabrication is no secret. They are very proud of this fact. Avery Dulles, in the article, merely is repeating this. You have to go to the article.

The Revised Mass is a “fabrication” in the same sense as the Missal of 1962 & those that preceded it.​

 

[ProVobis]

The Revised Mass is a “fabrication” in the same sense as the Missal of 1962 & those that preceded it.​

Except that it was almost a COMPLETE “fabrication”, except for EP#1. Very little was untouched.

 

[Claudius]

The article does not say what the original post says it says.

Also, calling the OF a fabrication is very uncharitable. It is Mass, where Lord Jesus is made present to us, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. If you question the presence of our Lord in the Eucharist than the protestants have a chair for you on their side. You can go sit with them because you do not belong with us.

I like my Latin and the older ways but I will not have you insult our Lord by saying that he is a fabrication.

 

[pnewton]

The article does not say what the original post says it says.

I have seen other thread completely deleted for having such a misleading title.