Lieing to keep a secret

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The problem with the “lying to Nazis to save Jews” scenario is not that a venial lie is told to save lives, but that this extreme scenario is used to justify all the convenient lies that people tell in their daily lives.

The Magisterium does teach that lying is intrinsically evil, it is wrong by its very nature. When people claim that any intrinsically evil act (lying, contraception, other popular sins) is sometimes moral, or becomes moral by a good intention or a dire circumstance, the implication is that all intrinsically evil acts could be similarly justified.

Every intrinsically evil act is wrong by its very nature, independent of intention or circumstances. All intrinsically evil acts, from a venial lie to a very grave sin of murder or rape, are the same in that regard: the act is immoral, in and of itself, regardless of intention or circumstances.

So when someone claims that a venial lie is not a sin at all, due to intention or circumstances, it implies that every intrinsically evil act can be justified in the same way. And that is just not true.
 
The problem with the “lying to Nazis to save Jews” scenario is not that a venial lie is told to save lives, but that this extreme scenario is used to justify all the convenient lies that people tell in their daily lives.
No one is suggesting such a thing.
The Magisterium does teach that lying is intrinsically evil, it is wrong by its very nature. When people claim that any intrinsically evil act (lying, contraception, other popular sins) is sometimes moral, or becomes moral by a good intention or a dire circumstance, the implication is that all intrinsically evil acts could be similarly justified.
No one here is implying that all intrinsically evil acts can be justified if done for the right reason. The argument is that it is not immoral to deceive an unjust aggressor to prevent harm to an innocent person. The aggressor is the one who is outside the bounds of morality. People do have a right to be free from unjust aggression.
So when someone claims that a venial lie is not a sin at all, due to intention or circumstances, it implies that every intrinsically evil act can be justified in the same way. And that is just not true.
Then let me ask you this; suppose you are walking down the street and an obviously pregnant woman asks you if you know the whereabouts of the local abortion clinic. You happen to know for a fact that the clinic that has been in the middle of the heated abortion debate is right around the corner. What do you do?

According to you, we simply cannot justify any attempt for the preservation of human life, even at its most vulnerable, so we must therefore speak the truth and tell her the location of the clinic. Did our actions further Justice? Was it an act of righteousness that we did not “lie?” Brother JR, a credentialed theologian, once said that there arises a time when we must “let the greater good prevail.” I happen to believe that such a circumstance would be one of those times.

Do you really think it better to let the Nazis arrest, detain and murder an entire innocent family - children, parents and grandparents - than to seek a path of Justice and help preserve their right of life?

Also, there is also a school of thought in the Church that does allow for deliberate falsehoods when circumstances necessitate it. From the Catholic encyclopedia:

“If a man is hid in your house, and his life is sought by murderers, and they come and ask you whether he is in the house, you may say that you know where he is, but will not tell: you may not deny that he is there. The Scholastics, while accepting the teaching of St. Augustine on the absolute and intrinsic malice of a lie, modified his teaching on the point which we are discussing. It is interesting to read what St. Raymund of Pennafort wrote on the subject in his Summa, published before the middle of the thirteenth century. He says that most doctors agree with St. Augustine, but others say that one should tell a lie in such cases. Then he gives his own opinion, speaking with hesitation and under correction. The owner of the house where the man lies concealed, on being asked whether he is there, should as far as possible say nothing. If silence would be equivalent to betrayal of the secret, then he should turn the question aside by asking another — How should I know? — or something of that sort. Or, says St. Raymund, he may make use of an expression with a double meaning, an equivocation such as: Non est hic, id est, Non comedit hic — or something like that. An infinite number of examples induced him to permit such equivocations, he says. Jacob, Esau, Abraham, Jehu, and the Archangel Gabriel made use of them. Or, he adds, you may say simply that the owner of the house ought to deny that the man is there, and, if his conscience tells him that this is the proper answer to give, then he will not go against his conscience, and so he will not sin. Nor is this direction contrary to what Augustine teaches, for if he gives that answer he will not lie, for he will not speak against his mind (Summa, lib. I, De Mendacious).”
 
In the interest of promoting this discussion, I’ve decided to post the draft of an article I’m working on for my blog:

*Sometimes this Commandment is a tricky one.

I’ve seen people lie online about the Catholic Church but claim it’s okay because the prohibition is only for bearing false witness against their neighbors and Catholics, being members of the Whore of Babylon, are not their neighbors.
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That's a sleight of hand I don't think will work come Judgment Day.

At the other extreme are those who think any untruth is a sin. But if that's the case, you would be sinning when you miscalculate on a math test. And what if you say something you think is true but then it turns out not to be? What if, for example, I tell someone my husband is in the kitchen but, unbeknownst to me, he's gone into the garage? I don't think we'd call that a sin either. 

When it comes to this Commandment and the subject of lying, often scenarios are put forth like Nazis coming to the door and inquiring about Jews hiding in the attic.

That's the sort of hypothetical question theologians love to bandy back and forth. Having to tell an untruth to save a life almost never comes up in real day-to-day living. Any Jew-seeking Nazis ring your doorbell lately?

Except it happened to me. I actually found myself in such a pickle.

First, a little background. My elderly mother was diabetic. Taking care of her was challenging. My father set his alarm to go off every two hours during the night so he could check that her blood sugar wasn't so low that she had slipped into a diabetic reaction. If her skin felt cold and clammy, he knew he had to get some sugar into her right away. Brain damage could be occurring if he delayed. Worse yet, she could go into a coma, one from which she might not recover.

She also had a skin condition. Her skin was so frail that she could bleed just bumping against an object.

And all this is where I ran into a problem when my mother came to stay with me while my father was in the hospital. I got up in the middle of the night to check her. Sure enough, her arm was cold and clammy. I knew I had to get her some sugar into her immediately.

So I scooped some ice cream into a bowl and woke her up. But she refused to take it. Because of the diabetic reaction, she wasn't thinking clearly.

You see, under normal conditions, my mother knew she was not supposed to eat food with sugar in it. Despite my pleas, she tightened her lips and folded her arms in defiance. The way she saw it, I was trying to feed her poison.

So what then? Quickly I went over my options:
  1. Do nothing. Go back to bed and hope she doesn’t die. The problem here, of course, is that this fulfills all the requirements of a mortal sin. (Yes, I rejected this idea immediately.)
  2. Force the ice cream down her throat. But she had that skin condition, and I also knew, from a similar experience my sister had had, that Mom could kick like a mule.
  3. Call the paramedics and have them force the ice cream down her throat. This didn’t seem better than option #2. In fact, it would guarantee a delay, and brain damage could be occurring during that time.
  4. Convince her the ice cream is sugar free.

    Well, what would you do? Remember, brain damage is happening while you’re spending time thinking it over.

    I went with #4. It worked, and my Mom was okay.

    Later, to my surprise, someone online told me I had lied and therefore sinned. In fact, she told me I had no option but to sin.

    Really? God allows situations in which sin is your only choice? Is that really what this Commandment is all about?

    There’s the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. We must always obey the spirit of the law.
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    But sometimes the letter does not apply any more than it did when the Pharisees complained that Christ's disciples were breaking the Sabbath. This point was important enough that it appears in all the synoptic gospels (Matthew 12:1-8, Mark 2:23-28, Luke 6:1-5).
This Commandment was made for us, not us for it.*
 
… When it comes to this Commandment and the subject of lying, often scenarios are put forth like Nazis coming to the door and inquiring about Jews hiding in the attic.
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That's the sort of hypothetical question theologians love to bandy back and forth. Having to tell an untruth to save a life almost never comes up in real day-to-day living. Any Jew-seeking Nazis ring your doorbell lately?

Except it happened to me. I actually found myself in such a pickle. ...
No, but they did my family members.

I am worried about the OP getting manipulated. I have prayed you will be safe, Manda.
 
The problem with the “lying to Nazis to save Jews” scenario is not that a venial lie is told to save lives, but that this extreme scenario is used to justify all the convenient lies that people tell in their daily lives.
If it is used to justify this, then it is used wrongly. But things that are true are occasionally used wrongly.
The Magisterium does teach that lying is intrinsically evil, it is wrong by its very nature. When people claim that any intrinsically evil act (lying, contraception, other popular sins) is sometimes moral, or becomes moral by a good intention or a dire circumstance, the implication is that all intrinsically evil acts could be similarly justified.
Many (well known, well respected) Catholics have expressed the view point that lying is intrinsically evil, but everything (including tracts on this site and articles by Jimmy Akin) that I have read on the subject from people that I trust to be knowledgeable on the matter suggest that the Magisterium hasn’t given a definitive answer - mostly because the only cases where it is even ambiguous aren’t very common.
Every intrinsically evil act is wrong by its very nature, independent of intention or circumstances. All intrinsically evil acts, from a venial lie to a very grave sin of murder or rape, are the same in that regard: the act is immoral, in and of itself, regardless of intention or circumstances.
The argument against you is that telling an untruth isn’t an intrinsic evil. It is an act of violence, but violence can be justified (killing vs murder). Not that this alone proves anything, but if there is no comparable distinction and any speaking of an untruth is intrinsically evil, then there is a situation where it would be allowable to, say, shoot someone in the face, but not tell them that someone isn’t home.

Because if a thug is looking for a person you have hidden in your house with the obvious intention of murdering them, then you have the right (and duty) to protect the person hiding in your house. And such protection justifies violence, deadly if necessary, against the attacker. So if lying is intrinsically evil, you may have to fall back on the non-intrinsically evil act of killing the thug.

This does not pass the smell test. But if lying, like killing, is instead an act of violence that takes on a different character when used against an aggressor vs an innocent (like killing does), then a lie would be allowed in this case. Like killing, lying would still be disallowed in most cases (most people are innocents), but it would be allowed in these extreme examples because it becomes a different sort of act.
So when someone claims that a venial lie is not a sin at all, due to intention or circumstances, it implies that every intrinsically evil act can be justified in the same way. And that is just not true.
This is only true if speaking an untruth can’t be divided into two categories, like killing and murder. Murder is intrinsically evil, but not all killing is murder. So if a person forfeits their right not to be killed by you, killing them ceases to be murder. This doesn’t justify the intrinsic evil of murder ever - you still cannot directly kill an innocent to bring about good.

Likewise, the argument goes, a person can forfeit their right not to be lied to. In such a case, telling them an untruth is a different sort of action than lying to someone who has not forfeited that right (just like killing an attacker is a different sort of action than killing an innocent) and so is no longer intrinsically evil.

So the argument is not that an intrinsic evil can be justified by circumstances, but that the nature of the act depends on all the details about the act (innocence or guilt of the person to be lied to/shot).
 
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