Life after birth

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One of the things my pro-choice friends usually bring up when the discussion of abortion ensues is, what about life after birth?
Some women who choose abortion say that they do not have the means to take care of a child. Many of these women are poor and can barely afford pre-natal care.
After birth, there must be some federal money to make sure that these kids keep proper medical care, get food, and are taken care of after they are born.
These children did not asked to be born. They should not have to suffer with a life of poverty.
In all fairness, I believe this is a valid point.
I think that those of us who are pro-life, must delve beyond just making sure than a child is born.
Whether it be federal help along with church aid, these children and their mothers must be taken care of. That is a moral imperative.
 
The liberal jokes I hear amount to, “Well I bet those conservatives wish they would have let the liberals have their abortions, then there would be less of us to vote against them!”

A bit over the top, but based on how strong the divide is, I truly wonder sometimes why they even care?
 
I do not think poor people should be killed for being poor. I think that poor people ought not to be denied the blessing of children because they are poor.

Christ told me that it is MY job to care for the poor.
 
From conception until natural death. No exceptions! Pro-life for the whole life!
 
I agree. If we are to fight for life, we need to help make those lives we are fighting for as well taken care of as possible, given the argument for many abortions is that the mother is simply
lacking the means to care of the child. Many Christian pregnancy centers offer free items (clothes, car seats, food, bottles, bedding, breastfeeding equipment, etc.) to the women that come to them, but often there are only like one of these organizations in a town of say 50,000 people (which is the case in my locale), and that is HARDLY enough to serve all those in need. And many of them don’t stock items that would help these families past their first year.

We can do a better job than that.
 
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As I have said a million times, women in crisis pregnancy need more than diapers and some clothes. Crisis pregnancy centers ought to be a welcoming oasis where women can find emotional, spiritual, medical and financial support. A place to live, child care, job training, etc.
 
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One of the things my pro-choice friends usually bring up when the discussion of abortion ensues is, what about life after birth?
Some women who choose abortion say that they do not have the means to take care of a child. Many of these women are poor and can barely afford pre-natal care.
After birth, there must be some federal money to make sure that these kids keep proper medical care, get food, and are taken care of after they are born.
These children did not asked to be born. They should not have to suffer with a life of poverty.
In all fairness, I believe this is a valid point.
I think that those of us who are pro-life, must delve beyond just making sure than a child is born.
Whether it be federal help along with church aid, these children and their mothers must be taken care of. That is a moral imperative.
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Like I’ve said many times, abortion is a symptom of society’s absolute and total failure to care for women in need including desperate women who are pregnant and feel they don’t have any options. Abortion doesn’t solve any problems, nor cure this situation. The Catholic Church is doing a wonderful job filling in this gap. There is a Church-sponsored home for care and support of young pregnant mothers behind my place.

The abortion industry is not a place where they’ll ever find that care and support. In fact the abortion industry couldn’t care less about women.

Also people say this a lot about the pro life movement, that they don’t care about life after birth. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
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I do not think poor people should be killed for being poor. I think that poor people ought not to be denied the blessing of children because they are poor.

Christ told me that it is MY job to care for the poor.
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It’s a non argument anyway.

Father and mother of a family of 4 children lose their jobs and suddenly their family is in severe financial peril. They can’t “afford” their children anymore but that’s not a reason to execute them.
 
If a woman does not have the means to take care of their baby, just put it up for adoption. How come that option is never discussed? Babies, even severely disabled ones, go like hot cakes, so it’s not like they will remain in an institution until they age out. And the process is expensive and rigorous, so it’s unlikely the kid will go to someone who does not have the means to take care of them.

I know it’s hard to let go of a child that you’ve bonded with for nine months, but, how is killing them preferable to allowing them to go to a loving couple and get the chance to grow up into something great? How is that preferable to making a huge difference in the lives of couples struggling with the heartache of infertility?
 
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These children did not asked to be born. They should not have to suffer with a life of poverty.
In all fairness, I believe this is a valid point.
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This is a really, really sad way of thinking. It shows how our society has completely lost the concept of the value of life. Non-existence is not better than life, despite the suffering that comes.
It is also so radically unfair. How many people in extreme poverty still fight to continue on in life. Why should someone make the decision for the child that the child’s potential suffering justifies its death?
It is finally, it is a straw-man argument. There are so many families looking to adopt. Why would anyone assume that the prospective adoptive family will be so poor as to not provide a life above the level of poverty?

In all fairness, there is nothing valid about the point.
 
I have a lot of liberal friends. I have never heard anything like that from them. They do not agree with my view on abortion, but they always are respectful of my belief. Or at least that is the way they act around me. We do not have to agree on the issues, but we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable or snarky.
 
Honestly, I’m convinced the abortion question is not so much about people not having the means to take care of their kids, as it is about people not wanting to be inconvenienced. There are more people waiting to adopt than there are babies available in this country. No child is doomed to becoming an unwanted child from conception. What it really boils to is that so many women cannot he bothered to carry a kid for nine months. Even if pro-lifers could write every expecting mother a check for however much it costs to raise a kid for the first 18 years of their lives, there will still be women who choose to abort because they don’t want to “ruin” their bodies or whatever excuse.
 
This is not a justification for abortion. It is something that could be used to make pro-life acceptable to more people in this country.
I believe we all have to be responsible for those who are brought into this world.
 
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This is not a justification for abortion. It is something that could be used to make pro-life acceptable to more people in this country.
I believe we all have to be responsible for those who are brought into this world.
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You’ll find that most if not all of us here believe exactly that.
 
That may be true. On the other hand, we need more understanding and less jokes. In my humble opinion.
I am reaching out to those I do not agree with to seek solutions. We need to find a way to stop abortion, but to allow for unwanted children to be adopted and cared for once they join this world.
 
YourNameHere said:
That may be true. On the other hand, we need more understanding and less jokes. In my humble opinion.
I am reaching out to those I do not agree with to seek solutions. We need to find a way to stop abortion, but to allow for unwanted children to be adopted and cared for once they join this world.
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A law alone won’t stop abortion. History has shown that. We need to eliminate the root cause. That will do it.
 
Actually, redbetta, many women do put their babies up for adoption. But many children go unadopted for one reason or another.
Also, the adoption process and the red-tape involved is really tough. Needless to say, the process should be thorough, but it should not be so tough than prospective parents walk away from the process.
My whole point to this is that we have to find a solution to help the process of carrying babies to term, having them, and then making sure they are cared for after they are born.
Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut in the matter. 🙏🙏🙏
 
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