Life and Death: What last nights "decision" could mean, for my family

[Anna_Scott]

This is the Original Post and topic of this thread:

I’ve kept my mouth shut long enough. I don’t like to “ruffle feathers”, but I can no longer keep quiet.

Ok, so “the people” have given Mr. Obama another 4 years. Would anyone care to know what this means for my family? There has to be someone out there… who cares.

It means that after 5+ years of sacrificing my own life, to keep my precious mother OUT of the nursing home system… I may now have NO CHOICE but to place her in one of those “death houses”.

Why?

Because I have just over a year now, to return to work outside my home… so that I can PAY for this nightmare health care mandate… that is being forced down our throats.

Have any of you ever spent time in a nursing home for those with dementia? They’re like HELL on earth. And I guarantee… my mother won’t live long, if I am forced to do that. But unless I can find someone, who is willing to sit with her… day in and day out… here in my home… for about $10.00 an hour (guess what folks, we are NOT wealthy!)… then I will have NO CHOICE.

Please pray for us.

My response:

I’ve done some Internet searches and found some things that may be helpful, especially the first link regarding receiving payment as a caregiver. You could check and see if California participates in this program. Alzheimer’s disease is specifically mentioned.

Receive Payment as a Caregiver: Cash and Counseling Programs

Medicaid’s ‘Cash and Counseling’ Allows Pay for Family Caregivers

Other links that may be helpful:

10 Government Programs You Can Access for Your Elderly Parents

Links for Organizations that can help caregivers get paid

Medicaid Coverage

Supplemental Security Income (SSI)

The Affordable Care Act is Constitutional. Now What?

Hope this is helpful in some small way,
Anna

MarieVeronica,

I would apply for Medicaid and see if you can get coverage. Obama’s Affordable Care Act actually expands Medicaid coverage.

See: Eligibility (Medicaid.gov)

Anna

Marie,

This is the link to the healthcare section of barackobama.com: Healthcare- Increasing access and affordability, which contains the tool: Learn How Obama Care Benefits You.

It’s really easy to use. I did two test entries (one-person household & two-person household.) It looks like if you are a one-person household making under $15,000/year or part of a two-person household making under $20,000/year; it is now possible to get Medicaid. You will have to apply through your state and see how your unemployment/employment and assets factor into the income requirements, etc. I would apply and see what happens. I’m hoping you can get Medicaid coverage. See: Uninsured? Check out Medicaid & CHIP

Jala,

The same website provides a link to** PCIP.gov** which has tools that might help you get coverage despite pre-existing conditons:

Who’s Eligible for PCIP?
How Much Does PCIP Coverage Cost?
How Soon Can Coverage Start?
Explore All Your Options
Uninsured? Check out Medicaid & CHIP

I hope this is helpful.

Prayers and blessings,
Anna

**Does anyone have anything else that would assist the OP?

Peace and blessings,
Anna**

 

[thewanderer]

thewanderer,

That’s a good plan, but still leaves us with a moral dilemma: How do we stop the private insurance company death sentence that is a direct result of lifetime caps on insurance coverage, failure to cover preexisting conditions, and dropping insurance coverage when someone develops a serious illness?

Allowing private insurance companies to continue these practices contradicts the Catholic Church’s call for “justice” in healthcare and coverage for all people as an “inalienable right.”

Anna

I’m curious, are you in favor of a state similar to the sharia law where every immoral act is prohibited by government?

I somehow doubt you are, but if you aren’t, why do you insist that this particular thing be prohibited by law even if the government has a different way of solving the issue? It is not the government’s job to police morality, it is the governments job to ensure the peace and freedom of its citizens.

Anyway, this is getting very far away from your question of how a Catholic could be against obamacare despite the Church’s position about trying to provide healthcare for all. Of course they can, being against obamacare does not mean that someone thinks healthcare is unimportant. It just means that they do not think obamacare is a good solution for today’s situation.

 

[Anna_Scott]

I’m curious, are you in favor of a state similar to the sharia law where every immoral act is prohibited by government?

I somehow doubt you are, but if you aren’t, why do you insist that this particular thing be prohibited by law even if the government has a different way of solving the issue? It is not the government’s job to police morality, it is the governments job to ensure the peace and freedom of its citizens.

Anyway, this is getting very far away from your question of how a Catholic could be against obamacare despite the Church’s position about trying to provide healthcare for all. Of course they can, being against obamacare does not mean that someone thinks healthcare is unimportant. It just means that they do not think obamacare is a good solution for today’s situation.

thewanderer,

The OP started the thread thinking she would have to put her mother in a nursing home and go to work to pay the “penalty” for not having health insurance. However, I did some searches and found that the OP may now actually be able to get healthcare coverage under the expansion of Medicaid in the ACA–a Bill which Catholics oppose for various reasons.

Everything, after the OP’s issue, has been trying to understand why Catholics have posted things that seem to contradict what the Pope said about healthcare, and other claims about ACA that lack support —which are part of numerous derailments that really should be taken to new threads: one for the religious freedom issue, one for the moral issue of provision or lack of provision of healthcare, one for the economic issues associated with the ACA, to name a few.

Anna

 

[thewanderer]

thewanderer,

The OP started the thread thinking she would have to put her mother in a nursing home and go to work to pay the “penalty” for not having health insurance. However, I did some searches and found that the OP may now actually be able to get healthcare coverage under the expansion of Medicaid in the ACA–a Bill which Catholics oppose for various reasons.

Everything, after the OP’s issue, has been trying to understand why Catholics have posted things that seem to contradict what the Pope said about healthcare—which is one of numerous derailments that really should be taken to new threads: one for the religious freedom issue, one for the moral issue of provision or lack of provision of healthcare, one for the economic issues associated with the ACA, to name a few.

Anna

Yes, I understand that, I got involved because you seemed to be implying that being against obamacare meant that you were against the idea of working towards a society where everyone has access to healthcare. That is just not true and I just wanted to make sure it was clear that that is not true. So if you recognize that it is false to say that a Catholic cannot be against obamacare and accept Church teaching that we ought to work towards a society where all have access to healthcare, then we are good. Nothing more to discuss.

 

[Anna_Scott]

Yes, I understand that, I got involved because you seemed to be implying that being against obamacare meant that you were against the idea of working towards a society where everyone has access to healthcare. That is just not true and I just wanted to make sure it was clear that that is not true. So if you recognize that it is false to say that a Catholic cannot be against obamacare and accept Church teaching that we ought to work towards a society where all have access to healthcare, then we are good. Nothing more to discuss.

thewanderer,

I’m not saying or implying that being against Obama’s ACA means being against the idea of working towards a society where everyone has access to healthcare.

I’m not even giving wholehearted support to the ACA. I think it needs some work and changes. I don’t think it needs to be scrapped altogether. However, what I think is not really the issue on this thread.

As I said, I tried to help the OP; and I’m trying to understand what is behind the Catholic objection to the ACA and what is behind some of the Catholic posts on this thread.

 

[Anna_Scott]

I think we need to return to the thread topic. I don’t have anything else to contribute to the OP. If any of you want to discuss issues other than the thread topic, send me a PM regarding the thread you have started or joined.

Signing off this thread, as it is hopelessly derailed.

Peace and blessings to all,
Anna