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Prague
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I still have family in Lincoln, and get back to St. Teresa’s every now and then. Different feeling compared to the church I attend now. I watched that church being built.
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rpp
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I am not sure where you got your information, but it is my understanding that the all-male priesthood** is **infallible, unchangable **dogma **of the Church. The document from Pope John Pauyl II you referred to infallibly states this. This all-male priesthood is with us until Christ returrns.
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mommyof4
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Apartments are very expensive there, Lincoln being a University town. Don’t move there unless you like the Nebraska Cornhuskes. If you don’t, you’ll get run out of town fast!Greetings,
Soooo… does anyone know how easy it would be to find a job in Lincoln? Are apartments expesive… oh and how’s the weather there like?
Pax Tecum,
Rocco
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mommyof4
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There are a lot of high tech jobs in and around Lincoln. And with Omaha being only a few miles away, you have a huge job market there (and housing market, too.) Cost of living in Omaha is a bit lower, too, if I’m not mistaken.
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mommyof4
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Ok, gotta just tell this short story. I grew up in Omaha, and I was amazed at the folks from other parts of the country who would not know anything about our lifestyle in the midwest. I once had someone who was visiting us ask me how many cows our family owned (none - I couldn’t tell you the difference between a holstein and a longhorn to save my life). Someone also asked how we got along with the Indians and if we were afraid of them attacking us. Yes, they were serious, too.
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jediliz
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Yes and we have Cable Television, actual Cars and INDOOR Plumbing!
Some people are very ignorant about Nebraska and the midewest in general.
When I said there are more than Ag jobs, I meant it. There are companies like where my brother works (he worksfor a company that makes antannaes for cell phones). There are teaching jobs as well.
And Nebraska is a producer of soy beans which makes an alternative fuel called Ethanol. There are plans for many plants here.
Back to the actual topic of this thread - the Lincoln Diocese RULES!
Some people are very ignorant about Nebraska and the midewest in general.
When I said there are more than Ag jobs, I meant it. There are companies like where my brother works (he worksfor a company that makes antannaes for cell phones). There are teaching jobs as well.
And Nebraska is a producer of soy beans which makes an alternative fuel called Ethanol. There are plans for many plants here.
Back to the actual topic of this thread - the Lincoln Diocese RULES!
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Ace86
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And because the Pope is the Pope, he definitely supports every dogma and doctrine of the Catholic Church?
(of course he does!)
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corvidae
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There are no EMHC in the Lincoln diocese, the diocese still uses acolites, which are required to be only male.
There are women who serve as cantor’s, and there are women who serve as reader’s, and there are women leaders in the Church community.
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Julianna
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Why the concern over being emasculated? Do women in today’s society pose such a threat that you want to run into the old trad church and hide? Why are a woman’s hands inferior regarding the eucharist? Wasn’t it woman who first touched our Lord after giving birth? Oh, yeah, but that is different. It was Mary who was in contact with him directly for the first 12 yrs of his life. So now a woman is regulated to the back burner because of “doctrine”? Who do you think wrote the “doctrine”? If horses wrote the doctrine don’t you think that cows would have a lesser role? Time makes us wiser, and that is a good thing.
How about having women sit outside the church or behind a big screen where they could be seen and not heard?
So the Lincoln Diocese attracts conservative Catholics…go there if you want…but if that’s not your thing…there are many Catholic churches still filled with those who are still mortal.
cheese_sdc…
I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat.”
Dare to think for yourself.
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E.E.N.S
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Just a question: what are your thoughts on the male-only priesthood?
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jman507
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Apartments are very expensive there, Lincoln being a University town. Don’t move there unless you like the Nebraska Cornhuskes. If you don’t, you’ll get run out of town fast!
Now why would you say that? If you don’t like Nebraska, you will within six months of moving there. Well that is what a lot of us think.Well I what can I say, I hold a special place in my heart for the Lincoln Diocese since thats where I found my faith again.
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Rand_Al_Thor
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Pax tecum!
Well I what can I say, I hold a special place in my heart for the Lincoln Diocese since thats where I found my faith again.
Hey, I’m still mad about Nebraska going to the National Championship game in 2001 instead of Oregon.
In Christ,
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jman507
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Yeah I’m still mad about that too.
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Julianna
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My thoughts on the male only priesthood, is that it will not change in my lifetime. There will be married priests before there will be women priests. I think the end of the baby boomers those born after 1960 will start the ball rolling, GenX will pick it up, and the the millieum generation, those born after 1982 will see it in their old age. The generations I have mentioned only know Vat II and as each progresses forward, so will the church. The millenium generation has no concept of being disciplined with a slap of the ruler on the hand during class, they have no memory of being asked to stand and recite the Act of Contrition or face punishment…no memory of being whacked in the back with a stick if they looked the wrong way at mass…the missal…what missal? The Baltimore Catechism is ancient history to them. They know Baptisms that take place “during” mass with four or five sets of parents/godparents standing by the altar (not like the old days, a private christening), first communions are not cattle calls anymore, and the dresses that the girls wear don’t have to be white (commnion “y” looking), nor is a veil required. Wearing jeans at mass and at teen mass are not unheard of.
My DH and I experienced the Catholic church very differently as children and young teens than what our children are experiencing. In our town we have a LARC…an ecumenical organization made up of Lutheran, Anglican and Roman Catholics. Ecumenical (a word I never heard of until my kids started Catholic school).
I don’t begrudge anyone the TLM, if that is what the individual believes he/she needs. I like the newer one with singing and a less sack cloth, ashes and breast beating type mass. I have experienced both.
Hope I answered your question.
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rpp
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I’m from Oregon. My feeings differ a bit!
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rpp
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I will take you up on your dare.
The all-male priesthood is a doctrine and dogma of the church. Like the resurrection of Jesus. Doctrine is part of the deposit of faith. If one doctrine can change because some people confuse equality with sameness, then so can other doctrines. Some people think the resurrection is just a bit too out there to have really hapened. Hmm. Maybe that should change too.
In fact, with this logic, all doctrine can change. Why even the prohibition against murder and our requirement to help the poor can be eliminated.
That makes all doctrine potentially changable.
But all donctrine comes from God as part of the deposit of faith. So if doctrine changes that means God changes. But if God is perfect and all-knowing, He cannot change. Unless you want to change that doctrine too. If you do, you cannot really claim to be Christian anymore. This is functional atheism; God, if He is there, does not matter because I make God what** I **want Him (her?) to be. Somehow, I do not think I would find that in the Catechism.
If God is unchangeable, then so are His doctrines.
Nope, the all-male priesthood is here to stay. To claim otherwise would ultimately and logically lead me back to atheism. (I am a former atheist.)
I took you up on your dare, now here is a dare from me.
You have expressed femminst views here despite your denial as to what femminism is.
I dare you to demonstrate that your feminism is not about a selfish confusion between equality and sameness.
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Nohome
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Not me, I’ve lived there my whole life (Midwest) and I get to Lincoln about 4 times a year.
There are not enough tech jobs in NE to support any significant growth of the population. The state will continue to mark modest increases, but nothing significant.
Corn makes ethanol, though NE produces this too, just not as well as Iowa and Illinois. There is talk about using soy stalks for celulose conversion, but it is still just talk. NE has plans for ethanol, IA already has dozens of them.
Hey someone asked about jobs and housing. I told them the truth. NE is a wonderful state, but it can’t support significant nonagricultural growth at this time.
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estesbob
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There is an old story about the Pope asking God about this. He asks “when will there be married priests”-God says-"not in your lifetime. He then asks when will there be female Priests-God replied “Not in my lifetime”.
The Church is about as likely to ordain women as it is to deny the Resuurection of Christ. Given John Paul the Great’s explicit statment on this one must wonder just what is it about “NO” people dont undertsand?
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Brendan
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First of all, a Eucharistic Minister is a priest, no one else can confect the Sacrament (which is the very defintion of being a Minister of a Sacrametn. A Minister of Holy Communion, on the other hand, communicates, or distributes the Sacrament.
Secondly, could you explain why it implies an inferiority. So do so implies that there is some superiority to being an EMHC. The only way that the denial of this role to women could express their being inferior is if there was some superiority to being in that role.
Is that your premise, that being an EMHC, or being asked to serve in that role implies a superiority?
Your statement also seems to have the undertones that women somehow have a right to serve at the altar. That has been decidedly condemed by the Vatican.
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latin_rite
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You’re 100% correct. There should be no dancing, singing of “pop” style love songs during mass. it’s about a man who has given his life for us and died in a cruel and painful way. It’s about respect. Idon’t recall Mary or others dancing around singing and clapping hands as Jesus was dying on the cross.
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