Listening to certain songs

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EdWasHere said:
I think it would very close to being a sin even if one does not act on it.
I think it best to stay completely away from music that in anyway supports sins such as fornication, self-please or hate of people and or a certain race. Or music that puts women down…Pray about it and stay away from it. You’ll be a better Catholic.
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what if we only show elvis from the waist up?
 
Wirraway said:
yes, if Jagger et al had actually said, “let’s spend the night together”, thousands, millions of teens would have slept together that very night.

apart from ridiculous pressure from parents (another proof of the rebellious nature of rock) which translates into sponsor revenue, no, I don’t understsand the need.
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What you regard as ridiculous was the desire of moral parents everywhere to protect their teen children from negative influences. I was there. That’s what our parents, who taught us right from wrong, wanted.

And it was only one or two bands that were designated as bad - the Stones being one of them.

Your conclusion is a revisionist fantasy. The media of the time was cooperating by allowing bands like the Stones on TV but limited them in cooperation with the sensibilities of the entire TV audience - the entire TV viewing country - who was limited to three or four stations depending on location.

That’s why, today, I have limited, strictly limited, my contact with the media, especially with what passes for entertainment today. It is gross, vulgar and unprofessional to say the least.

And plenty of moral Catholic parents are doing the same. Enough is enough.

Peace,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
What you regard as ridiculous was the desire of moral parents everywhere to protect their teen children from negative influences. I was there. That’s what our parents, who taught us right from wrong, wanted.

And it was only one or two bands that were designated as bad - the Stones being one of them.

Your conclusion is a revisionist fantasy. The media of the time was cooperating by allowing bands like the Stones on TV but limited them in cooperation with the sensibilities of the entire TV audience - the entire TV viewing country - who was limited to three or four stations depending on location.

That’s why, today, I have limited, strictly limited, my contact with the media, especially with what passes for entertainment today. It is gross, vulgar and unprofessional to say the least.

And plenty of moral Catholic parents are doing the same. Enough is enough.

Peace,
Ed
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would you feel better if we showed jagger only from the waist up?

and… sorry to disappoint you about Heatwave, *Summer of 69 *and Groovin’. Did I mention Up on the roof? sorry about that too.
 
edwest2 said:
No. The attempts to add double meanings was A) about avoiding censorship, B) trying to get to kids, but we knew better.

We knew.

Peace,
Ed
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I don’t ever remember every hearing a kid when I was growing up saying anything like, “oh… this song is actually about illicit sex … there’s no way I’m going to listen”
 
Wirraway said:
would you feel better if we showed jagger only from the waist up?

and… sorry to disappoint you about Heatwave, *Summer of 69 *and Groovin’. Did I mention Up on the roof? sorry about that too.
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Morality makes me feel better. The media was willing to be a guest in my home and be considerate of my values.

After 1964, we kids noticed the attempts to get bad messages to us. Summer of 69? Sure, the Hippies were popularized as the media really began to become an unwelcome influence.

Enough is enough>

Peace,
Ed
 
Wirraway said:
I don’t ever remember every hearing a kid when I was growing up saying anything like, “oh… this song is actually about illicit sex … there’s no way I’m going to listen”
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Are you Catholic?

Were you listening to the songs coming out in 1960-1964?

Peace,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
Morality makes me feel better. The media was willing to be a guest in my home and be considerate of my values.

After 1964, we kids noticed the attempts to get bad messages to us. Summer of 69? Sure, the Hippies were popularized as the media really began to become an unwelcome influence.

Enough is enough>

Peace,
Ed
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ed, I’m talking about the Bryan Adams song,* Summer of 69*.
 
Yes, put out in 1984. I know. Point is, by the 80s, radio was going downhill. I stopped listening in 1990s.

Peace,
Ed
 
grandfather said:
It clearly does not. I am suggesting that a high percentage of those who are devotees of Rock music get involved in the destructive lifestyle it espouses. They admire the artists and imitate them. They dress like them. They embrace their ideals and the music influences them to do this. They take the same drugs and pattern their lives after the behavior they see in those they idolize. This is a fact.QUOTE]

This is absolutely false. A “high percentage” does this? No way. Since I was very young I’ve listened to rock and the even more dreaded rap music and I haven’t overdosed on any drugs or killed anyone or committed suicide. I have jumped into a few people at a concert, and wore a flannel shirt or two, but so what? Is it a sin to be in a mosh pit, where I’ve met some of the nicest people ever. Fall down in one, and watch the people stop what their doing to pick you up. If I decide I want to start dressing like a rock star on my own time, is that a sin? If that’s the case, don’t ever wear blue jeans and a t-shirt ever again. I said it earlier and I’ll say it again. If someone is influenced by music to do something wrong they are weak minded and would have be led by something else to do the same wrong.
You have no idea the number of people who can say a good rock song helped them through a hard time in their life, as I’m sure many on here can attest to.
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ed: join us. embrace the Life. everyone really is doing the Locomotion.
 
Nope. I’d rather hold the girl I’m dancing with.

The media has turned its spotlight away from the virtuous and over to self-professed thugs and gangstas. Do I want to buy some guy’s clothes wrapped up to look like a key of coke? No way.

Peace,
Ed
 
This is absolutely false. A “high percentage” does this? No way. Since I was very young I’ve listened to rock and the even more dreaded rap music and I haven’t overdosed on any drugs or killed anyone or committed suicide. I have jumped into a few people at a concert, and wore a flannel shirt or two, but so what?
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I am glad you never overdosed. Congradulations.
 
Padilla7921 said:
Quoted for truth.
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I think the original poster is a Catholic asking a question hoping for an answer from a Catholic perspective. Semi-Pelagianists would not be disposed to provide that. They are good at sarcasm and mockery though.
 
However, at some point, people have control over how much they are influenced by music. It is illogical to say that someone does something just because “the music told him to”
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I don’t let myself get tempted by the lyrics if I know that they’re about something immoral.
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Temptation is nothing to taken lightly, and the saints had a good understanding of what it meant to them. For example, St. Francis of Assisi and St. Benedict were tempted and if it persisted, they would throw themselves into thorn-bushes and roll in them until they bled. Now I’m not suggesting to do this, but my point is that they did not dismiss temptation as something trivial. This extends even to immoral music.
 
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