Liturgical Dancers

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Marines:
Actually, the Mass we go to is more like this.

http://www.cathinsight.com/apologetics/elevation.jpg
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Behold, the Mass. Excellent picture Marines.
 
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misericordie:
CAN ANYONE out there PLEASE!!! Tell me what kind of “catholic” site is this that ktm posts here ABOVE, i.e., The so called “clown mass” link??? I have been trying to find out??? IS IT legitimate or WHAT??? Can someone PLEASE!!! Tell me???
ARE THEY in UNION with the Pope, is it a sound site, are they in COMMUNION with the church; WHAT are they???
Thanks for all your help here all, sincerely with all my heart, thanks.
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Well, come on? Any responses???:hmmm:
 
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misericordie:
Behold, the Mass. Excellent picture Marines.
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Marines posted that picture on June 26 - one month ago.
And you’ve made 20 posts into this thread since then.
So what is the point of this comment, at this late date?
Especially since this thread is now drifting in several different directions.
 
tcj:
Marines posted that picture on June 26 - one month ago.
And you’ve made 20 posts into this thread since then.
So what is the point of this comment, at this late date?
Especially since this thread is now drifting in several different directions.
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Wow, you actually COUNTED how many posts I have on THIS thread?? Now, that’s interest.:yawn:
 
Misericordie,

You could say that someone is watching over you…Oh how blessed you are!😉

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
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Shoshana:
This is the post for those trying to understand what I am saying:

http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0406s.jpg

I am sorry. I guess the flag does not cover the altar or the Blessed Tabernacle. My mistake. But it is unmistaken to see that the banner oversees the sanctuary. Now, I will look for the response of said pastor of said parish to one of the e-mails sent to him in concern of such said action.

Re: Gay Pride Masses​

this is the reply I had just recieved from this guy from the parish mentioned above.
Dear Mr. #########,
We are not a parish, but a church in the archdiocese under the care of the Society of Jesus.
When the Mass is celebrated, the Roman Rite is used.
With Noah and his descendants we rejoice in the sign of God’s everlasting covenant.
Peace to you.
Mark Brown ------------------------------------------------------------

NOTES FROM THE DIRECTOR TENTH SUNDAY OF ORDINARY TIME SUNDAY, JUNE 9, 2002

Dear Friends,
We resume our Sunday observance of Ordinary Time today at the conclusion of a week that, here in Boston, has been far from ordinary. All through the week, the city has joined the gay and lesbian community of New England in celebrating Boston Gay Pride 2002. A community often marginalized has held center stage.
The week, which was heralded by the raising of the Pride colors in the City Hall plaza last Friday, began with the yearly AIDS Walk last Sunday, at once a sobering reminder of our mortality and an encouraging reminder of our solidarity. Yesterday’s Pride Parade and celebration of Pride on the Boston Common brought to a colorful conclusion the official events of the week. The sparkling sunlight and gentle warmth that pervaded the day helped make the occasion festive for the thousands in attendance.
I’m grateful for the thirty who represented the J.U.C. in the parade, and particularly to the Chair of our Pastoral Council, Bob Muti, for helping to carry the J.U.C. banner along the route. Like so many other supportive straight members of our community, Bob gives strong and bold witness to that care for all God’s people to which the Gospels call us.

Hello, Matt,
We are supportive here both of Church teaching and of homosexual persons, in the spirit of the American bishops’s pastoral letter, Always Our Children.
Fr. Tom Carroll, SJ ------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks, Father, for your reply. I just have one more question about this because I am honestly confused and curious:
I’m only assuming that the rainbow flag you have in your church represents your support of homosexual people. I DO know that being a homosexual is not a sin, but homosexual acts ARE a sin according to church teaching.
My question is this: Would you also be willing to hang a Nazi flag (representing bigots and murderers) over your sanctuary? Nazis are God’s children, too, but their bahvior can be construed as sinful.
Again, Father, I’m not trying to antagonize you, only trying to understand my faith better.
God Bless,​

so both Mr Brown and this so called Priest think alike.
In both emails they never answered a single question.
nice two step faddah!
If you view his picture on the site, you would have no clue he was a priest…at least I didnt until your email above.
Blessings,
Shoshana
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I am not amazed. This seems to be a product of the disobedience to Rome running rampant in many, many Catholic parishes throughout this land. I would not even consider (PERSONALLY) I parish as above, Catholic.
 
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Shoshana:
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0405g.jpg “Gymnastic Mess” Being Performed
In Menzigen, Switzerland, May 2, 2004
Redeptionis Sacramentum Instruction Totally Ineffective

From Swizerland comes our latest example of that non-Mass lunacy that is the Novus Ordo service. Gymnasts dressed in flimsy costumes perform during the performance of the Novus Ordo Mess.

The Church of the New Order will tell you that everything is kopasetic; there are just a few “abuses.” What a crock! First of all, the so-called abuses are so widespread that they are the Novus Ordo Mess. Second, the Novus Ordo Mess is, in and of itself, the abuses. It spits on the true Mass of the Roman Catholic Church, what we now have to call the Traditional Latin Mass to distinguish it from the Novus Ordo Mess, even sugar-coated with a little Latin. The evidence, a small sampling of which is included in TRADITIO’s Novus Ordo Service Photo Gallery, makes this conclusion undeniable.

The Swiss source that brings the “Messe gymnastique” to our attention comments:

Les auteurs de ce document ne considèrent pas que la réalité alarmante qu’ils dénoncent est le fruit de ce rêve chimérique: une liturgie toujours en mouvement d’adaptation. Un mouvement que les ultra-progressistes ne veulent ni arrêter, ni même freiner. [The authors of this document [*Redemptionis sacramentum] do not consider that the alarming reality it they denounce is the fruit of a chimerical dream: a liturgy always in movement of adaptation. A movement that the ultra-progressives want neither to stop completely nor even slow down. (Documentation Information Catholicques Internationales)]
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Here you are for the post who says that this picture has been floating around…

Blessings,
Shoshana How can this nonsense still go on in many parishes??
 
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Shoshana:
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0403v.jpg

Maybe these were from the same clown mass??? What do you think???

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This was performed in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Does anyone come form that area…what was it supposed to be, blessing a jeep??? How do we say a mass on a jeep???

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Blessings,
Shoshana
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If these were masses, it is not only liturgical abuse, buy diabolical
 
The only “liturgical dance” I’ve been witness to, (other than Khoria’s description of near perfection) was the slow, deliberate procession of the Missionaries of Charity as they entered the local parish church and together, walked up the isle, solemly took their bow before the Tabernacle, (they Genuflect, then bow so low that they actually touch their heads to the floor in Reverence for the Blessed Lord in the Tabernacle) and silently entered their regular pew to pray and await the beginning of the Holy Sacrafice of the Mass. I was one of the few volunteers that usually accompany such “dances” and took my usual seat beside the last of these Sisters. I learned alot about being reverent on the inside rather than the outside from them.

I really feel sorry for folks who have left piety (which BTW happens to be a virtue) so far behind that they have no clue what it means and think it means slapping Father on the back after Mass in the back of the Church and applauding whatever happens to please them during the Mass. They just have no clue what it means to bow mind and heart before the Lord of Lords Present in our Church.

The actions that the body actually take, i.e. - the Genuflection, IS our “dance” and all of the opportunites we have during Mass to Genuflect, bow, stand or kneel ARE our “dance” but only if our minds and hearts are fully and activly participating. There is nothing like Genuflecting before the Tabernacle while at the same time knowing one’s smallness and meaninglessness before such an awesome God. How the body manages to get through this is by knowing the discipline of the actions and with the mind and heart detached, just continues while the soul is lost in its own understanding of its smallness in God’s Presence. This is the “dance” I’ll keep doing thank you very much.

God bless Phoney Mahony’s vestal virgins. May they find out how deceived they actually are.

Peace and all good,

Thomas
 
I’d like to reply to this particular thought on this thread:

Originally Posted by Servulus
*The incident to which MGEISING’s mother may be referring is David’s bringing the Ark of the Covenant to the place he had prepared for it. The incident is described in 2Samuel, Chapter 6:

“14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.”

Hope that helps.*
Servulus, Protestants are those who do stuff that they feel like doing and then find some Scripture passage or two to justify themselves in their errors. I’m sure plenty of folks danced all over the place in the days of feasting that occured during the high Holy days among the Jew, but the Church, founded by Jesus Christ has set the rubrics to be followed for the Holy Sacrifice. It is up to us to obey the Church and thusly, obey God.
Peace and all good,
Thomas2
 
well, have we about wrapped this one up? How many of you have changed their minds… how many converted to your way of thinking…
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yeah, that’s what i thought… no one wants to dance to a different tune… peace… 👍
 
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Shoshana:
Anybody for a gym mass? Wouldn’t they go well with our liturgical dancers…hmmmm
There are many of these masses which they call Messes in Traditio. You can stop in have and have a good look. Now Tradito is not in union with the Pope, so try to keep that clear as you swim through the many messes that abuse has wrought upon us. Enjoy???:crying:

Blessings,
Shoshana
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UNBELIEVEABLE!!!
Run!! Don’t walk, RUNN!!! Grab the tabernacle on your way out!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
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ridesawhitehors:
UNBELIEVEABLE!!!
Run!! Don’t walk, RUNN!!! Grab the tabernacle on your way out!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: That’s so funny. I do agree, we must RUN!!! Out of churches like that.
 
Servulus, Protestants are those who do stuff that they feel like doing and then find some Scripture passage or two to justify themselves in their errors. I’m sure plenty of folks danced all over the place in the days of feasting that occured during the high Holy days among the Jew, but the Church, founded by Jesus Christ has set the rubrics to be followed for the Holy Sacrifice. It is up to us to obey the Church and thusly, obey God.
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We should keep in mind that the Church’s condemnation applies only to the Roman rite, and even then exceptions have been made. For example, the Congolese version of the Roman Mass, the Missa Luba, I believe inculturates some dance rhythem into the liturgy. And this has its origins before the Council.

The Coptic and Ethipoian Catholic Churches also incorporate a kind of bodily rhythmic motion in their style of worship.

And I think even among Latin Catholic in India a certain level of dance is permited during the liturgy, though it’s done in such a way that it is not “entertaining” but worshipful. (In Indian culture, dance is very much associated with worship. My best friend is a Hindu, and her study of sacred dance will eventually qualify her to be a guru!)
 
A brief reply. We don’t have liturgical dance at my parish. And we won’t. Ever.
 
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DominvsVobiscvm:
We should keep in mind that the Church’s condemnation applies only to the Roman rite, and even then exceptions have been made. For example, the Congolese version of the Roman Mass, the Missa Luba, I believe inculturates some dance rhythem into the liturgy. And this has its origins before the Council.

The Coptic and Ethipoian Catholic Churches also incorporate a kind of bodily rhythmic motion in their style of worship.

And I think even among Latin Catholic in India a certain level of dance is permited during the liturgy, though it’s done in such a way that it is not “entertaining” but worshipful. (In Indian culture, dance is very much associated with worship. My best friend is a Hindu, and her study of sacred dance will eventually qualify her to be a guru!)
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That’s nice. However, we are mostly writing here about un-called for “liturgical dance” in the catholic Church in the USA.
 
What manner of evil is this?? Kyrie Eleison; Christe Eleison.
 
Hello Dominus Vobiscum,

I’m aware that there are licit liturgical practices that allow for inculturations including dance in various OTHER rites, however, we are of the Latin Rite and are bound to those norms laid out by it. We have no provision for dance. Sounds simple to me.

Peace and all good,

Thomas2

P.S. a good demonstartion of licit liturgical dance was performed by some women from India with flowers and incense in Rome not too long ago. I saw it on EWTN. A far cry from what they are trying to get away with here in America.
 
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Shoshana:
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0403v.jpg

Maybe these were from the same clown mass??? What do you think???

:rotfl:

(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

This was performed in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Does anyone come form that area…what was it supposed to be, blessing a jeep??? How do we say a mass on a jeep???

:crying:

Blessings,
Shoshana
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THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!
 
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