Liturgical Dancers

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Marines:
Actually, the Mass we go to is more like this.
Now this is a Catholic Mass. Far from any pagan “gym” mass. Right ON!!!

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I will pray about it. I already know I will love it, so why don’t I go then? Here’s a few of my reasons (and I am open to being convinced otherwise). 1) An hour away, three very small children and a husband that would say No Way! (except like for a field trip or something.)
2) My parish is blessed with very holy priests, who do their best to encourage proper reverance during Mass, (not everyone listens though). Fortunately, I have never see anything like has been described on this thread.:eek:
  • Because there are no “outright” abuses and I am being “fed”, I don’t know that I have strong enough reasons that would justify me not supporting my local parish. I just have this *longing. *An ache for something I have never known, and feel I (all of us) have been shortchanged.
Ana
 
The only Liturgical Dancers I have ever seen was when I attended mass at the LA Catholic Congress that Cardnal Mahony puts on each year.
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Under Highlites Go to Photos From CONGRESS 2004, and look for Closing Liturgy, and you will see what I meen.
 
hey I went there too!! (the RE Congress) Yeah, those liturgical dancers were distracting and some at the Youth Day Mass were wearing skintight leotards, which was pretty gross. Also another distracting thing that happened at the “Youth Mass” was when some gothic-dressed girls came in with stage microphones singing Evanesence’s song “Wake Me Up.”
 
These liturgical abuses are the reason many go solely with the Tridentine Latin Mass. OR have decided to go with the Society of Saint Pius the X:
Code: 
       [www.sspx.org](http://www.sspx.org)    
                             By the way, the SSPX recognizes the Holy Father as the Vicar of Christ on Earth, and he IS the Pope(JP II).
 
At a former parish they once had some American Indians beating a huge drum on the altar and chanting loudly in place of the Lamb of God. The closing song for that Mass sounded the same (although it might have been different) as they led the procession down the aisle while carrying and beating the huge drum.
 
Seen it. Didn’t get it. I always get embrassed for the dancer.

Just don’t get it.

Reidtgang
 
The former pastor of our church started to allow Liturgical Dancing. When I brought the regulations to his attention, he said that “what they were doing isn’t Liturgical Dancing it is Liturgical Movement and anything that brings people to Mass is good.”

Luckily he was transferred from our Parish and the “Liturgical Movement” is no longer part of the Mass.
 
Funny no one has mentioned how notoriously BAD most of these ‘performances’ are. I find the choreography, the ‘costumes’, and the dancers’ ability to be an embarrassment. There’s a “Let’s put on a show!” quality that turns the liturgy into amateur hour. Maybe it’s no worse than badly performed liturgical music, but at least I can focus on the altar, tabernacle, or crucifix to ‘zone it out’. The dancers are in your face. 😦
 
We have a large Vietnamese Community. They have a beautiful, stylized dance/pageant of young girls in native dress. We usually use it for the Crowning of Mary; though occasionally it will be used for the Offertory procession in multi-cultural masses.
 
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Funny no one has mentioned how notoriously BAD most of these ‘performances’ are. I find the choreography, the ‘costumes’, and the dancers’ ability to be an embarrassment. There’s a “Let’s put on a show!” quality that turns the liturgy into amateur hour. Maybe it’s no worse than badly performed liturgical music, but at least I can focus on the altar, tabernacle, or crucifix to ‘zone it out’. The dancers are in your face. 😦
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This is so Excellent! I really enjoyed reading this post. True, this is the sad state we are living in in many Catholic Parishes throughout the USA:nope: .
 
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I showed this to a redemptorist priest A different World province then the ones who run the above parish, and he could not believe it was a catholic Church. He was saddened.
 
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misericordie:
I showed this to a redemptorist priest A different World province then the ones who run the above parish, and he could not believe it was a catholic Church. He was saddened.
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I am reffering to the liturgical dancing etc, in the very liberal parish, where the links to the pictures which shows all the dancing is.:nope:
 
Why would anyone continue to attend a parish with liturgical dancers, when if they search, they will find many which are holy, and obey the VATICAN, and the Magisterium, but above all are 100% CATHOLIC, not mixed with OTHER religions?
 
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MGEISING:
Do you have Liturgical Dancers in your Parish? How do you feel about them? (BE CHARITABLE PLEASE :eek: )
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Do I really have to be charitable about this? :rolleyes:

Yes, my parish has them. In fact, our deanery (St. Charles deanery in the Archdiocese of St. Louis) has some sort of committee/support group for them. When a (very orthodox) friend asked our pastor if he knew liturgical dance was forbidden in the U.S., he claimed he did not. Unfortunately, instead of being able to quote a Vatican document, she was only able to recall hearing it on EWTN. She was then told that she shouldn’t believe everything “that nun” (Mother Angelica) says. (He wouldn’t listen when she tried to explain that it was male priest theologians, not Mother Angelica, who said it).

I hate it. Everyone involved seems to be either an aging hippy or hippy wannabe (i.e., too young to be an actual hippy). The most horrible thing I ever witnessed occurred during the Easter Vigil this year. I was an RCIA sponsor this year. Prior to this, I’ve only gone to Easter Sunday Mass, never to the Easter Vigil (and, unless I’m my husband’s sponsor when, God willing, he converts, or I move, I never will go again). I was absolutely APPALLED. Every OT reading was SUNG AND ACTED OUT BY THE DANCERS! :eek: It was like a (bad) Broadway show! :mad: Can anyone top this? (if so, I feel extremely bad for you 😦 ).

Since, praise God, my parish only does this (dancing) during special occasions (Easter Vigil, Palm Sunday, etc.), I haven’t been subjected to it in a while. The other day the thought came to me that now that we have a great bishop (Raymond Burke, I’m sure you all have heard him. John Kerry sure has 😃 .), I should write to him and see if he’ll put a stop to this. I’ve never complained to the bishop before, does it work?

My parish isn’t too bad, not compared to some of the stories I hear (no non-ordained people reading the Gospel or preaching the homily, no congregants standing around the altar holding hands during the consecretion, etc.), but this is one area that drives me nuts! (that and holding hands during the Our Father).

Ellen
 
This is the kinda thing messing the liturgy up: “Exceptions depending on the culture”.
People are so afraid of hurting someone’s “feelings” that they allow too much culture to influence the church. It is very beautiful to see how most of the hispanic culture influenced their worship by bringing a little different art style, architecture etc… and that is all that is needed. All this other stuff is nonsense! It doesn’t matter if it offends them…That is why we chose God, over dancing and our own culture at Holy Mass. There is only ONE GOD who can only be worshiped ONE WAY and HE IS UNCHANGING. God told us how to worship Him correctly through the Jews, and now the Catholic Church…Look at how specific Leviticus is!
Perhaps there are much better analogies than this, but I use to listen to some pretty serious heavy metal…now let’s say that is part of my “culture”, that doesn’t mean I wear a nast t-shirt and cut up jeans and then start to headbang when they sing at Mass…if I ever do that, I’d expect someone knock me upside the head with a large blunt object…well, maybe that is out of line, but you get the point.
 
Way back in the day when I was an Evangelical (last year), I remember having to suffer through a service with a sort of Liturgical Dance. Can you imagine that it was to rock music??? I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time! Not only that but there were many attractive girls in skin tight costumes and most of the young men (like me) were not focused on anything holy at all (except maybe how God created women to be so attractive…does that work as being prayerful and holy? I didn’t think so either) I have never seen any of this in the awesome Parishes I have been able to attend, praise God!
 
I believe that if there were dancers I would have to leave and go somewhere else.
 
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Servulus:
The incident to which MGEISING’s mother may be referring is David’s bringing the Ark of the Covenant to the place he had prepared for it. The incident is described in 2Samuel, Chapter 6:

“14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.”

Hope that helps.
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Yep. And David’s wife gave him heck for it, too!
 
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Servulus:
The incident to which MGEISING’s mother may be referring is David’s bringing the Ark of the Covenant to the place he had prepared for it. The incident is described in 2Samuel, Chapter 6:

“14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.”

Hope that helps.
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Yep. And David’s wife gave him heck for it, too!
 
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