Liturgical Dancers

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Jeff Miller:
This is what the Bishops had to say on this previously.

“all dancing, (ballet, children’s gesture as dancing, the clown liturgy) are not permitted to be “introduced into liturgical celebrations of any kind whatever.” [NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS (BISHOPS’ COMMITTEE on the LITURGY) NEWSLETTER. APRIL/MAY 1982.]”

The USCCB needs to come out with a newer statement on this since this newsletter is prettry much ignored.
:eek: :eek: I think it needs to be in English … NOT ALLOWED!!!
 
DrCat said:
Allowing it? I understand some of them actually encourage it. :bigyikes:

John

wwhh…wwwhhh…WHAT!
Encourage it?!? :eek: :bigyikes: :eek:

sighAmazing, simply amazing! :nope:
 
We don’t have liturgical dancers forturnately at our particular parish, although I know the Archdiocese has been pushing for this, especially since World Youth Day came to Toronto. It would appear to me to be a poor attempt at what some may see as a means to ‘revitalize’ the Mass. I know for a fact that the Holy See says this is not allowed in North America this dancing, since it is not normal to our culture to incorporate it in our culture. At the recent Lay Symposium for the Laity at Toronto we heard they were going to have it and left prior to the Mass, as I know it is a desecration of the Sacrament.
Fr. DeValk(editor of Catholic Insight) discussed this once and he pointed out the the Holy Father allowed this at World Youth Day. I pointed out to him the the Holy Father may allow various nonsense to go on at any given occasion, but that hardly means he approves of such abuses.
My personal opinion is that liturgical dancing seems to be a poor attempt to entertain people. Just as Vatican II never meant the Mass to be said by the priest facing the people, because it makes him an entertainer rather than worshiper and a servant of God.
If you see this nonsense, there is only one thing to do: LEAVE! A good parish where you are fed is worth the travel. :confused:
 
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I absolutely agree … and the poll shows that there isn’t much of this going on … which make me happy! I tried making it aware at my old parish that is wasn’t allowed … but they didn’t care.

:eek: :eek: But then again - they also taught all types of heresy … so I finally woke up and smelled the coffee :eek:
 
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Becky:
http://www.stjosephsmen.com/letters/images/clowns_small.jpg

:ehh: I’m wondering about the two guys right of the altar. Both are in ties and one is wearing a sleeveless shirt. I think this looks pretty silly! :whacky:
 
I have to admit with MUCH chagrin that I used to be a…gulp… liturgical dancer in my more idiotic days, but quit (thankfully). I just figured we were distracting and useless, so didn’t see the point in doing it. I had no idea it was a liturgical abuse or
anything, though.
We weren’t glow in the dark or anything, it was really modest and very simple, but now I can’t stand to see them.
In all fairness, there are a few girls in it who really truly believe they are praising God with their dance, but I figure they can do that somewhere outside of Mass.
 
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I have to admit with MUCH chagrin that I used to be a…gulp… liturgical dancer in my more idiotic days, but quit (thankfully). I just figured we were distracting and useless, so didn’t see the point in doing it. I had no idea it was a liturgical abuse or
anything, though.
We weren’t glow in the dark or anything, it was really modest and very simple, but now I can’t stand to see them.
In all fairness, there are a few girls in it who really truly believe they are praising God with their dance, but I figure they can do that somewhere outside of Mass.
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Hi:

What was the main reason why you did this … you mentioned you didn’t think it was a LITURGICAL ABUSE… What happened to make you feel other wise?

Thanks so much for sharing with us … it must have not been easy@
 
My cousin invited me to join and I figured I would just go to check it out. The woman in charge presented liturgical dancing as an enhancement to worship, a way for you to praise God, etc. and shared some stories about people who would tell her how uplifted and moved they felt when they saw the dances. It didn’t sound like a bad idea at the time.
To be completely honest I never felt 100% comfortable being in litugical dance, but figured maybe it was my fault, like maybe I wasn’t into it enough. I’m not really one of those “extrovert worshipers” either, so maybe it was that too. It wasn’t until I saw another group of dancers that I realized how distracting, pointless, and ridiculous we looked/were.
 
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MGEISING:
It is funny - when I went to My Mom (who is a staunch Catholic) and told her our (old) parish had this type of activiy, - she said, but Moe … David Danced Naked in from of God …

Thanks be to God we don’t have that. :eek: :eek:

I think this is a serious LITURGICAL ABUSE … do you agree? :eek: :eek:
I read the Bible from cover to cover when I was 17, i’m 46 this 27th July and I never read of David dancing naked, God preserve us :whistle:
 
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hansgsa:
Fr. DeValk(editor of Catholic Insight) discussed this once and he pointed out the the Holy Father allowed this at World Youth Day. I pointed out to him the the Holy Father may allow various nonsense to go on at any given occasion, but that hardly means he approves of such abuses.
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The host country sets up the Masses when the Holy Father goes visiting. He is a guest.
 
The incident to which MGEISING’s mother may be referring is David’s bringing the Ark of the Covenant to the place he had prepared for it. The incident is described in 2Samuel, Chapter 6:

“14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.”

Hope that helps.
 
Marines, now that’s a picture of a CATHOLIC Mass, not a clown party. There are also good Novus Ordo Masses were the Pastors have courage and they get rid of all the Liturgical abuses as soon as they become pastor. Of course he will receive persecution by the feminazis, those who have the “job” of “eucharistic ministers”, those who say the pastor MUST give the Communion under Both species, as one told apastor friend after Mass when he gave Communion ONLY under the form of bread, she said: “where’s the Blood of Jesus”???!! You see what happens in most liberal parishes is that the LIBERAL laity are the real ones who are running the parish: hence “liturgy commitees” etc., The Parish Council itself is just an advisory board to the Pastor, not a legislative branch that passes legislation then tells the pastor he MUST!! abide. I would name more women then men so the liberal feminists won’t complain, BUT THE WOMEN WOULD BE MEMBERS OF OPUS DEI, OR WOULD BE OTHER VERY ORTHODOX PROFFESSIONAL WOMEN. i WONDER WHAT THE LIBERAL FEMINISTS COMPLAIN WOULD BE THEN?
 
Of course he will receive persecution by the feminazis, those who have the “job” of “eucharistic ministers”, those who say the pastor MUST give the Communion under Both species, as one told apastor friend after Mass when he gave Communion ONLY under the form of bread, she said: “where’s the Blood of Jesus”???!! You see what happens in most liberal parishes is that the LIBERAL laity are the real ones who are running the parish: hence “liturgy commitees” etc., The Parish Council itself is just an advisory board to the Pastor, not a legislative branch that passes legislation then tells the pastor he MUST!! abide. I would name more women then men so the liberal feminists won’t complain, BUT THE WOMEN WOULD BE MEMBERS OF OPUS DEI, OR WOULD BE OTHER VERY ORTHODOX PROFFESSIONAL WOMEN. i WONDER WHAT THE LIBERAL FEMINISTS COMPLAIN WOULD BE THEN
Unfortunately, this is true for most parishes.
 
http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0405g.jpg Anybody for a gym mass? Wouldn’t they go well with our liturgical dancers…hmmmm
There are many of these masses which they call Messes in Traditio. You can stop in have and have a good look. Now Tradito is not in union with the Pope, so try to keep that clear as you swim through the many messes that abuse has wrought upon us. Enjoy???:crying:

Blessings,
Shoshana
 
I used to go to a church where they had liturgical dancers only once a year (as far as I could tell), at the Easter Vigil.

Which basically meant that on the holiest night of the year, there were 6-8 women (and a token man), dressed in sleeveless white dresses (or pants), prancing around the altar as they brought up the gifts during the offertory.

I might have been able to accept this, but that was just until the man hopped onto the altar and then the women ran around him and danced some more.

You can bet that I began looking for another parish quick.
 
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