Living a traditional Catholic life without a trad parish?

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Denise1957 said:
I recall the story of two FSSP priests who are brothers, and their names escape me just now, but they were raised in a very devout Catholic family in Nogales, Arizona, who attended the OF, and they also attended an OF school. What made them unique is that the father in the family would have catechism lessons every Saturday for all five children. He wanted to make sure that they knew all of the teachings of the Church. They also prayed the family Rosary daily. The family had attended however an EF Mass several times when growing up, and it left an impression on at least one of the boys who would later become an FSSP priest. So it is possible, I think, to have a devout and traditional life without a trad parish, but it will require more effort on your part, of course. If you choose this route, perhaps you could get your husband involved, since it’s good for children to have both parents involved in the religious education of children.
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Just as it is improper to define parishes as OF parishes it is even more improper to define a school as an OF school. A school is not primarily a place for the Mass. While Mass may (and should be) celebrated at a Catholic School the school should not be defined by it.

This is the biggest thing that bothers me about all this self division some Catholics seem to like to do.

There is no traditional Catholic faith, no OF Catholic faith, there is just the Catholic Faith. Devotions and form of the Mass chosen are just personal preferences and do not change that Catholic Faith in any way.
 
Friar_David_O.Carm said:
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This is the biggest thing that bothers me about all this self division some Catholics seem to like to do.

There is no traditional Catholic faith, no OF Catholic faith, there is just the Catholic Faith. Devotions and form of the Mass chosen are just personal preferences and do not change that Catholic Faith in any way.
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thank you for weighing in ,Friar David.as a recent convert this division can be very confusing and troubling .at times even scandalous.
 
Friar_David_O.Carm said:
Just as it is improper to define parishes as OF parishes it is even more improper to define a school as an OF school. A school is not primarily a place for the Mass. While Mass may (and should be) celebrated at a Catholic School the school should not be defined by it.

This is the biggest thing that bothers me about all this self division some Catholics seem to like to do.

There is no traditional Catholic faith, no OF Catholic faith, there is just the Catholic Faith. Devotions and form of the Mass chosen are just personal preferences and do not change that Catholic Faith in any way.
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What’s missing is 1 John 3:23.

-Tim-
 
=Tired Mama;9891830]Where I used to live had a FSSP parish. They shared their church building with an OF parish but they had their own religious education and other activities. There were lots of families with many children. Most of the families homeschooled and did activities together through the parish. The children could receive First Communion in the traditional rite and if I recall correctly they also had Confirmation in the traditional rite as well.
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We’re lucky enough to have a FSSP apostolate about 20 miles from our house but it’s not a parish. They don’t have any religious education for the children. It appears that you have to send your children to religious education at an OF parish in order for them to have First Communion and Confirmation. We’ve only been a few times but there seems to be no sense of community that I can detect which makes sense since isn’t a real parish. It’s disappointing.
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I’m sure this is not a unique situation. How do the rest of you guys deal with this in your families?
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Tarpeian_Rock said:
For purposes of the OP’s question, I wonder if it would be useful to re-think what “traditional” might mean. To my way of thinking, the better definition would have more to do with things Jesus specifically told us to do (one example being Matthew 25), as opposed to what form of the Liturgy one preferred. Viewed that way, living a “traditional” Catholic life would tie to how one lived their life (as directed by Jesus) and not the form of one’s worship one hour a week.
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Friar_David_O.Carm said:
There is no traditional Catholic faith, no OF Catholic faith, there is just the Catholic Faith. Devotions and form of the Mass chosen are just personal preferences and do not change that Catholic Faith in any way.
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TimothyH said:
What’s missing is 1 John 3:23.

-Tim-
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Amen, double Amen, and triple Amen. 👍
 
Rich_C said:
Don’t bring your generalizations into this thread. I see no signs of division in the OP’s question.
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And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ: and love one another, as he hath given commandment unto us.
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this is a generalization ?:confused:
 
Friar_David_O.Carm said:
Just as it is improper to define parishes as OF parishes it is even more improper to define a school as an OF school. A school is not primarily a place for the Mass. While Mass may (and should be) celebrated at a Catholic School the school should not be defined by it.

This is the biggest thing that bothers me about all this self division some Catholics seem to like to do.

There is no traditional Catholic faith, no OF Catholic faith, there is just the Catholic Faith. Devotions and form of the Mass chosen are just personal preferences and do not change that Catholic Faith in any way.
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In what way do you and the others plan to respond to the question posed by the OP? Do you currently attend (or want to attend) a parish which celebrates the Extraordinary Form, and do you homeschool your children? This is what the OP’s question refers to. I at least attempted to answer her question, while others here just want to criticize. It’s not very nice.
 
Friar_David_O.Carm said:
I believe he was responding to my reply and not the OP.
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Actually, Tims. I thought your point may have had merit so I PM’d you for clarification. Tim just said that people who want the EF Mass are missing either faith in Our Lord, or love for other Catholics, or both (see 1 John 3:21). I thought it was uncalled for.
 
Tired_Mama said:
Where I used to live had a FSSP parish. They shared their church building with an OF parish but they had their own religious education and other activities. There were lots of families with many children. Most of the families homeschooled and did activities together through the parish. The children could receive First Communion in the traditional rite and if I recall correctly they also had Confirmation in the traditional rite as well.

We’re lucky enough to have a FSSP apostolate about 20 miles from our house but it’s not a parish. They don’t have any religious education for the children. It appears that you have to send your children to religious education at an OF parish in order for them to have First Communion and Confirmation. We’ve only been a few times but there seems to be no sense of community that I can detect which makes sense since isn’t a real parish. It’s disappointing.

I’m sure this is not a unique situation. How do the rest of you guys deal with this in your families?
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I sent my children through the programs at my local parish. It is a Catholic parish that is part of our Catholic diocese, that teaches the Catholic Faith. We have Mass here too.
What exactly are you dissapointed in?

If you
“have to send you children to religious education at an OF parish”
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then why do you not do that?

Call me confused.
 
Denise1957 said:
I have reported your post, for attempting to cause division on the thread. And I mentioned that you are not the only one.
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I was pointing out use of divisive terms.

If that is causing division then I guess I am guilty.
Rich_C said:
Actually, Tims. I thought your point may have had merit so I PM’d you for clarification. Tim just said that people who want the EF Mass are missing either faith in Our Lord, or love for other Catholics, or both (see 1 John 3:21). I thought it was uncalled for.
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Rich,
I see your point.
 
clem456 said:
then why do you not do that?

Call me confused.
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I believe that the OP stated that their child receive the sacraments of initiation in the Orthodox Church so then that would mean that there is no required religious ed for this child as they have already received all the sacraments of initiation.

I believe that they should speak with the priest of the community they attend to determine what further religious education is necessary for their child.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
For purposes of the OP’s question, I wonder if it would be useful to re-think what “traditional” might mean. To my way of thinking, the better definition would have more to do with things Jesus specifically told us to do (one example being Matthew 25), as opposed to what form of the Liturgy one preferred. Viewed that way, living a “traditional” Catholic life would tie to how one lived their life (as directed by Jesus) and not the form of one’s worship one hour a week.
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Absolutely!
 
Sorry to sound mean, but people in OF parishes can’t live traditional lives? I find that ludicrous. Heck, come to the Lincoln Diocese, I think it does a wonderful job. Our OF masses are very orthodox and moving and we only have one traditional parish that I know of. I guess as someone who’s only real option is an OF mass I find it a little off that you think you can’t live a traditional catholic lifestyle without it.

That being said, I kind of understand where you are coming from since you attended an FSSP parish. Change can be hard, but there are wonderful people in OF parishes who are orthodox.
 
benjammin said:
Sorry to sound mean, but people in OF parishes can’t live traditional lives? I find that ludicrous. Heck, come to the Lincoln Diocese, I think it does a wonderful job. Our OF masses are very orthodox and moving and we only have one traditional parish that I know of. I guess as someone who’s only real option is an OF mass I find it a little off that you think you can’t live a traditional catholic lifestyle without it.

That being said, I kind of understand where you are coming from since you attended an FSSP parish. Change can be hard, but there are wonderful people in OF parishes who are orthodox.
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What you worship is what you believe.
 
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