Living as an Invalidly Baptized Catholic without ever knowing it?

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Hello,

“A blanket ‘no’” is the only answer. The person who says “I baptize you” has to be the one who actually does the baptizing. If not, the sacramental form fails to reflect what is happening and is emptied of its meaning.

Dan
 
Hello,

“A blanket ‘no’” is the only answer. The person who says “I baptize you” has to be the one who actually does the baptizing. If not, the sacramental form fails to reflect what is happening and is emptied of its meaning.

Dan
Luke11:45,46,52

Is canon law so difficult that a simple question about baptism is a matter of the expert you believe? Hardly seems like the cause Jesus died for.
 
Do you have some knowledge of the priest or parish involved in your Baptism that causes you to have such fears? As has been pointed out, a"minor lapse" won’t invalidate the Sacrament - assuming intent, water, and the Trinitarian Formula are present.
It has happened.

catholicnewsagency.com/news/australian_priests_stop_new_age_baptism_retake_trinitarian_formula/

But I am in agreement with others. I do not believe that God will hold us responsible for that which we do not know.
 
Rather, what is causing these thoughts? Spiritual attack? Crisis of faith? OCD? Anxiety? Best to address that first.
 
Best not to be evangelized lest the whole weight of canon law keep us from heaven.
The law is meant to guide is toward salvation, not keep us from our. A desire to follow the law isn’t a bad thing, and a failure to adhere due to no fault of our own is not held against us.
 
The law is meant to guide is toward salvation, not keep us from our. A desire to follow the law isn’t a bad thing, and a failure to adhere due to no fault of our own is not held against us.
I know. Your right that God’s law is meant to lead us to goodness. Sometimes, it seems like figuring it out is tough to do if the lawyers are to be believed. There is something about the word of God being inaccessible to the unlearned to hear the academics pontificate, and yet Jesus in particular seemed to call the poor and illiterate. “not many wise, not many noble…” The mosaic law was a taskmaster to lead us to Christ who set us free from the burden of the law. In all cases, the law is always an accuser. Nobody gets proven good by the law. At best the accuser’s case is inadequate. However, the scripture says that while the law accuses it is Christ who justifies. It seems a step back after Christ has paid so great a price to justify those who live by faith to create an extensive and esoteric law which requires the expert opinion of a canon lawyer just to figure out if a man is baptized. I get that the majority view is he is either correctly baptized or a recipient of baptism of desire. Just seems a long way to go to say so little. It seems real simple, if a Christians applied water to his hide and proclaimed him baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, he’s baptized. If an aging priest pronounced the words while a younger stronger man applied the water, who cares. The baptism is under the authority of the Trinity–in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
 
Luke11:45,46,52

Is canon law so difficult that a simple question about baptism is a matter of the expert you believe? Hardly seems like the cause Jesus died for.
Hello,

I find the referral to the “woe to you” passages to be a bit heavy-handed.

Be that as it may, no, I don’t believe this question “is a matter of the expert.”

Dan
 
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