Looking forward to 10 years of Summorum Pontificum

[johnnyc176]

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In the motu proprio, Benedict noted that the Traditional Latin Mass was never abrogated. He awknowledged clearly the right of all priests of the Roman rite to say Mass using the Roman Missal of 1962, and established that parish priests should be willing say the extraordinary form for groups of the faithful who request it.

In his letter accompanying the motu proprio, Benedict had noted that while “it has clearly been demonstrated that young persons too have discovered this liturgical form, felt its attraction and found in it a form of encounter with the Mystery of the Most Holy Eucharist, particularly suited to them.”

“Benedict XVI already in 2007 was aware that the new recipients of this liturgy, loved, desired and also sought, were the youth,” Fr. Nuara said.

 

[amsjj]

Thank you, Grandpapa Benedict, for this great gift. It returned something that had been stolen from me long before I was born.

 

[Padres1969]

I wonder, how much more prevalent is the Extraordinary Form since Summorum Pontificum?

 

[OraLabora]

I wonder, how much more prevalent is the Extraordinary Form since Summorum Pontificum?

Where I am, not very. None that I know of in my diocese. I live on the border with the neighbouring archdiocese, and there is one location in that diocese. It’s at a church in the periphery of the diocese in a very rural area about 70-80 km away from the main (and only) city of the archdiocese, and about 160 km (100 miles) from me. The focal point is a very traditionalist community that lives in that area and the parish church is shared by both the traditionalist community and the other Catholics. Unfortunately it is a very deeply divided parish, the two communities (EF and OF) don’t speak to each other and are hostile to each other.

I know this because our schola wanted to sing there; one of our choristers is from that parish (the “regular” side but with traditionalist sympathies). We proposed singing monastic Vespers for both communities as that form of Vespers transcends both eras, as it is still in use by Benedictine communities that use both pre- and post-Vatican II forms of the Mass and Divine Office. The hymn, antiphons and psalm schema are the same in both pre- and post- forms, and the rest aligns with the liturgical year in its pre- and post-Vatican II forms. The Monastic Office is the only traditional Divine Office schema in the Roman Church, dating back to it’s description by St. Benedict in the 6th Century.

Anyway the parish priest told us it would not be possible, neither group would attend a liturgy if the other was present. A very unfortunate development.

Otherwise, for me to find an EF Mass would require travel to Montreal, 100 km away. So not on my radar.

Fortunately I go to Mass at the Benedictine abbey I’m attached to as oblate, a 35 minute drive away, and while in the OF, it is in Gregorian chant with Latin propers and Ordinary (with Greek Kyrie of course), and the rest in French plainchant; it’s very beautiful, very reverent, and joins the traditional with the modern in what Sacrosanctum Concilium intended.

 

[poche]

I wonder, how much more prevalent is the Extraordinary Form since Summorum Pontificum?

Where I live there has been a parish with the TlM that has been around since Pope St. John Paul’s Ecclesia Dei.

 

[larsont7]

I wonder, how much more prevalent is the Extraordinary Form since Summorum Pontificum?

It probably depends on where you live. I know the FSSP has been ordaining between 8-14 new priests every year, and it seems as if at least one or two new apostolates open up each year. San Diego, Baltimore, and Houston are just a few of the more recent additions. The ICKSP has also ordained many new priests since SP came out, and has grown a lot. Our parish currently has 2 seminarians in the FSSP and 1 in the ICKSP (along with the 3 priests already ordained in the FSSP).

I know after SP came out, many diocesan priests came to OLG Seminary in Nebraska to train how to say the TLM, so I’m guessing there are many more dioceses that at least offer an occasional TLM than before SP was issued. It would be interesting to get some statistics on how much of an impact SP really had.

 

[Wandile]

It probably depends on where you live. I know the FSSP has been ordaining between 8-14 new priests every year, and it seems as if at least one or two new apostolates open up each year. San Diego, Baltimore, and Houston are just a few of the more recent additions. The ICKSP has also ordained many new priests since SP came out, and has grown a lot. Our parish currently has 2 seminarians in the FSSP and 1 in the ICKSP (along with the 3 priests already ordained in the FSSP).

I know after SP came out, many diocesan priests came to OLG Seminary in Nebraska to train how to say the TLM, so I’m guessing there are many more dioceses that at least offer an occasional TLM than before SP was issued. It would be interesting to get some statistics on how much of an impact SP really had.

This is good!

Is it possible to be a diocesan priest but be a member of the FSSP or simply attend their seminary during your formation years?