Losing my faith, help

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Lormar said:
If you have earplugs, put them in too.
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I’ve contemplated doing that, but I’m afraid the priest will notice haha
Lucy_1 said:
I am a convert from protestantism. I enjoyed being a protestant much more than I enjoy being a Catholic. It was much more fulfilling, and I felt closer to Jesus. I did not want to convert to Catholicism. I resisted. It was difficult because many Catholics are not well catechized and do not put God first I their lives. I joined the Catholic Church because presented with the writings of the early Father’s, I could only conclude that the Catholic Church Jesus established. I joined because I realized that I cannot be the authority on interpreting the Bible.
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You just described my exact situation! I was never officially protestant, but while away from catholicism, I was considering it and I had never been as close to God as I was during that time! Coming back to catholicism was just because I could not deny the truth!
 
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mugglestruggle said:
That’s what I read, anyway.
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Sounds like you read too much and not necessarily from the proper sources.
There are many “cliches “ repeated around which really don’t happen or are very rare in real life.
Much less all together like “everything is wrong.”
It is patently obvious sometimes that the writers haven t even set foot in a Church.
What you have available to read in the internet may come from any type of source , even trolling sometimes.
It is quite obvious often times …
 
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Lost_sheep2 said:
that there was an amazing TLM parish within walking distance of my new house. The old liturgically abusive Novus Ordo Mass soon seemed like a distant memory.
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It does sound like your old parish was iffy, but just as a friendly reminder to anyone reading: there are plenty of priests who say the Ordinary Form of the Mass with appropriate seriousness, and it’s a completely valid Mass, just like the Extraordinary Form.

I’m not saying you’re saying it’s not, it’s just sometimes people come away from these discussions thinking the Ordinary Form is bad or inferior somehow.
 
If you ask Siri or Alexa, they will say,

Q: who founded the Catholic Church?

A: Jesus Christ
 
I absolutely agree with you with your exhortation not to let liturgical abuses —and make no mistake, there are still too many places where there are real true unmistakable liturgical abuses of the worst kind—make a person ‘lose faith’.

What we need to do is keep the faith even when we don’t even receive what is our right as Catholic Christians —the right to a Mass in union with all other Catholics, a Mass free of abuse—because our responsibility as Catholics is not predicated on actually receiving those. OTOH our rights and responsibilities as Catholics also do not allow us to simply, ‘offer it up’. If we were the only ones suffering, that would be a perfectly legitimate option, but if others are suffering, we need to raise our voices, not to get something ‘for us’ but rather to allow what is God’s own desires for OTHERS (including us, and including any well-intentioned but liturgically illicit-enabling priests and others too).

So a good thing is to make sure that we are well-educated regarding what is abusive. Constant Hagen-Haas is abusive to the ears for many, and theologically murky, but it is not in and of itself ‘abusive’. For the priest to ad lib the Eucharistic prayer, changing the words of consecration, constantly omitting a creed of any kind, using glass chalices, etc., these ARE abuses, some minor, some major.

When we absolutely know that something is illicit and/or invalid, then we approach the priest first, after much prayer for the priest, fasting and alms if possible, and with the greatest possible respect we INQUIRE about what we question.

If it is made clear that the priest not only thinks he is ‘right’ but intends to keep on, we need to be ready to, again with the deepest respect, and continuing to attend Mass too, go ‘up the chain of command’, knowing that probably nothing will come of it but ill will toward us. However, if enough people would have the guts to do this, instead of the bishop having one or two letters regarding something wrong, he might very well have a couple of dozen, or even a couple hundred—and then something might actually be done. Above all, keep constantly praying for this priest and not, “Oh God please smite him because he’s such a pill” but, “Oh God, thank you for this priest and his service and all his many good deed and prayers. Please give him abundant grace to continue to do Your Will.”

You may never live to see any result from this, or it may be only negative and directed at you—but I truly believe there will be good from this and it will be made manifest.
 
That’s why I specified it was a liturgically abusive Novus Ordo. I’ve been to some very nice reverent Ordinary Form Masses I don’t have a problem with it when done right.
 
Jesus to the Church at Ephesus:

Yet I hold this against you: you have lost the love you had at first. Realize how far you have fallen. Repent, and do the works you did at first. (Revelation 2:4-5)
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When in life was your faith the strongest? Perhaps, it was when you were a child. What can / what will you do to return to the devotional pattern that you followed then?
 
Despite the fact that they got it right, I still hate those things.
 
Oh me too. My brother uses one all the time and it drives me up the wall.
 
aroosi said:
SSPX is still not in full communion with the rest of the Catholic Church. There are plenty of threads about it in CAF. Better to look into FSSP, they have Latin Mass in Quebec city AND are in full communion with the Catholic Church.
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The video you posted is from Fatima Center. You know from a topic that you created 11 days ago that Fatima Center is also a controversial organization.
 
Offer to babysit someone’s young children at mass lol. Guaranteed you won’t notice what the priest is saying or what the music is. I sympathize because I know what’s it’s like when it feels your the odd one out, as I’ve gotten older I realize it wasnt healthy for me and I need to be more flexible.
 
You can probably lawyer your way into “the SSPX is fine to attend” but why bother? It’s not like there aren’t plenty of other traditionalist societies or groups without the, let’s say, complicated relationship with Rome.
 
aroosi said:
The video you posted is from Fatima Center. You know from a topic that you created 11 days ago that Fatima Center is also a controversial organization.
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I know the landscape in Canada. It’s way too liberal there. I don’t see any problem if the person has to go to a SSPX parish. Besides, even Rome gave the faculties for confession. I’m sure in the coming years, their irregular status will be straightened out.

And there’s one FSSP parish in downtown Quebec city and one in Montreal.
 
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Alexandria2020 said:
these are the SSPX parishes in the province of Quebec.
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aroosi said:
Better to look into FSSP, they have Latin Mass in Quebec city AND are in full communion with the Catholic Church.
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The province of Quebec is so large. Not everyone lives in Quebec city or Montreal. Obviously, none of these churches are close to me or else I would go and I would not have this problem. The TLMs in Ontario are closer to me actually. but it’s still a good 2 or 3 hour drive.
 
mugglestruggle said:
The province of Quebec is so large. Not everyone lives in Quebec city or Montreal. Obviously, none of these churches are close to me or else I would go and I would not have this problem. The TLMs in Ontario are closer to me actually. but it’s still a good 2 or 3 hour drive.
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oh so you’re nearby the Ontario province border? Could you tell where exactly you are? or the nearby city?
 
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