Louisiana Catholic Church says gay relationships are sinful, and those who do not think it a sin are like the devil who twists the truth

[toddy]

Our Lord will judge, all sins are forgiven, [except against the Holy Spirit].

 

[toddy]

God cannot loose.

If too much lose, He restarted the earth again with one family of Noah. But he knew men liked devils and sins so He would loose again. God promised immediately with Noah would not flood the earth next time. Maybe Covid?

 

[Riman643]

I agree, but if someone is going to be absolutely literal then they could argue Jesus never spoke directly about it.

 

[toddy]

yes, it is just God’s wrath, because many good people always kneel down and beg for mercy, but still a lot rebels out there lose the sense of sin.

 

[Nepperhan]

I take it you did not live in California when the state was trying to pass a gay rights law to force the Catholic Church to marry same sex couples? It came down to the wire. The fight is not over, it remains in the courts, probably until after President Trump’s tenure. It will begin it’s “tread” again.

Marriage is a sacrament and part of a church’s ministry. The state will never be able to dictate to churches substantively about marriage. Just cannot.

The state can demand a license and demand record-keeping. That’s about it.

 

[Nepperhan]

It’s disrespectful for you to not acknowledge a person’s full name; President Hussein Obama. Why do you disrespect this president’s name by not acknowledging it? Or are you trolling?

Yes, it was disrespectful for the Thomas More society to sue the president as “Barack Hussein Obama”. If you do not recognize what they were trying to say I will PM you for your eye-opener.

 

[Nepperhan]

Is that why President Hussein Obama wanted to out law “don’t tread on me”? because the tea party was using it for a slogan?

Please don’t repeat that hoax.

 

[OriginalGabrielof12]

Marriage is a sacrament and part of a church’s ministry. The state will never be able to dictate to churches substantively about marriage. Just cannot.

Well welcome to reality and the planet earth. Many states and countries mandate that a same sex couple can get a license to Marry and be recognized as legal in any religion, church or state. But that is off topic.
The Church says same sex relationships is unnatural and sinful in the eyes of God. The U.S has in God we Trust stamped on it’s currency.
How can a state legalize same sex marriage while at the same time proclaim “in God we Trust”?
True no powers on earth can change what God has made in a marriage sacrament. But a secular power by majority can mandate new laws that go against the Church.
Consider the countries where the secular and religious laws have Islamic flavors. Yet the Christians within these predominately Islamic countries are legally persecuted and cannot practice their Christian faith publicly. Try to take a bible into North Korea.
Today, the U.S is headed in that direction of persecuting Christians legally. It begins with legally killing a baby in the womb, same sex marriage, etc… I have no problem if one wants to sin against God and kill their own baby in the Mother’s womb or marry the same sex. Do not pass laws against my belief’s to tread on my faith religion and make it illegal for me because I believe abortion and same sex marriage is a sin against God.
Should the U.S become a socialist or communistic society, history proves these type of societies persecute Christians and still do today.

 

[OriginalGabrielof12]

Context please keep it in context. Korea relates to Secular powers, read the entire post.

 

[OriginalGabrielof12]

True it’s not becoming a communist state or socialist state yet. The “yet” points to the resistance the U.S fights against since her existence, thus the Constitution keeps the U.S free. Amending the U.S Constitution is in question. It can be changed just a quick as it was written. If we cannot read the signs of the times we will fall victim to repeating history.

 

[Nepperhan]

Well welcome to reality and the planet earth. Many states and countries mandate that a same sex couple can get a license to Marry and be recognized as legal in any religion, church or state. But that is off topic.

No. A state cannot tell a religion what to recognize. You are wrong.

The Church says same sex relationships is unnatural and sinful in the eyes of God. The U.S has in God we Trust stamped on it’s currency.
How can a state legalize same sex marriage while at the same time proclaim “in God we Trust”?

Maybe some folks think that God recognizes same sex marriage. Out country’s motto is but a general belief in God, not a specific religious persuasion.

True no powers on earth can change what God has made in a marriage sacrament. But a secular power by majority can mandate new laws that go against the Church.

Sorta like capital punishment, huh?

Today, the U.S is headed in that direction of persecuting Christians legally.

Nonsense.

I have no problem if one wants to sin against God and kill their own baby in the Mother’s womb or marry the same sex. Do not pass laws against my belief’s to tread on my faith religion and make it illegal for me because I believe abortion and same sex marriage is a sin against God.

What law was passed shoving this down your throat? You are mistaken.

 

[Nepperhan]

Nepperhan:

OriginalGabrielof12:

States could force Catholic priests to perform same-sex … ​

www.lifesitenews.com /news/states-could-force…

Nonsense. Can priests be forced to perform bar mitzvahs?

They can’t be forced to, but they can be penalized if they don’t, which will be the primary way the people behind this bill will seek to punish those who disagree with them.

Nonsense. They cannot be punished for not performing such a ceremony. Where do you get that?

 

[OriginalGabrielof12]

Everyone has an opinion.
So long as the U.S or any country past and present that continues to decay in morality such as same sex marriages, abortions, remove prayer or God from school children. History proves that Communism will take over like a vulture and consume all freedoms and remove God from society. Socialism is Communism ugly cousin.
The Louisiana Catholic Church is taking a stand against public laws that sin against God by proclaiming “gay relationships are sinful”.
Lord will you spare us, should you find one loyal to you as the Louisiana Catholic Church.
Peace be with you

 

[OriginalGabrielof12]

What law was passed shoving this down your throat? You are mistaken.

Have you ever prayed in front of an abortion clinic? I have. The local civic laws are against me to practice my faith for trying to save a life. States are trying to pass laws and some already have passed laws that protect a person to identify their own sex and If you mistakenly address this person in the wrong pronoun, you can be fired from your job and or charges can be brought against you, these laws are in the works which begins the list of laws that attribute to the U.S decaying morals.
Peace be with you

 

[Nepperhan]

Have you ever prayed in front of an abortion clinic? I have. The local civic laws are against me to practice my faith for trying to save a life.

Your freedom to practice your faith stops when you impede others. You cite evenly applicable laws as somehow being aimed at you and constricting your ability to practice your faith. It ain’t necessarily so.

 

[CaptainPrudeman]

Your freedom to practice your faith stops when you impede others.

It ends when clear and significant harm is done to someone else, per the Supreme Court, and the burden of proof lies on the governmental body doing the charging.

 

[Rau]

True it’s not becoming a communist state or socialist state yet. The “yet” points to the resistance the U.S fights against since her existence, thus the Constitution keeps the U.S free.

What powerful forces towards becoming communist or socialist State has the US been fighting, and what role has the Constitution played in that fight?

Amending the U.S Constitution is in question. It can be changed just a quick as it was written.

By all accounts, it is hard to change. What is required to change it?

 

[OriginalGabrielof12]

Your freedom to practice your faith stops when you impede others. You cite evenly applicable laws as somehow being aimed at you and constricting your ability to practice your faith. It ain’t necessarily so.

I believe the flag slogan “Don’t Tread On Me” applies for those citizens protesting laws against them. My faith does not impede on others let’s get that straight.
I am not interested in your side stepping the OP here. I am happy to entertain you on the real subject at hand, but I cannot continue with your lost cause, when the facts have presented themselves to you and no legitimate rebuttal to counter, which takes us off the topic.
A friend of mine shared a utube video of a female Lector being struck and slapped in the Church. Your ignorance of how much the Catholic Church is under attack shows in your statement. This is a fact not by man’s standards but by God’s standard who proclaim the gates of hell will come against the Catholic Church but we have hope, God proclaimed these gates of hell will never prevail amen.
Peace be with you

 

[OriginalGabrielof12]

What powerful forces towards becoming communist or socialist State has the US been fighting, and what role has the Constitution played in that fight?

Truthfully speaking, The evil powers and principalities have never ceased to be at work since the resurrection of Jesus Christ. As much as it is tempting here to go political here, I will refrain from political history to the present and maintain my presence here theological. The Constitution is always under attack because the document proclaims God gives every human being a right to be free and live without Government and laws impeding on the divine human rights. This single right that God gives to all human beings has been under attack. A simple historical example I will leave you with here began with slavery of man.

By all accounts, it is hard to change. What is required to change it?

A Majority is all it takes to amend and or change it. Should a communist government or Islamic government become the majority in Congress, Senate, Presidency, Supreme Court can change or amend the Constitution mainly because it is man made professing a faith in God.
A simple majority is all it takes. The price has been paid in full by American blood for every American to vote their free conscience for their freedoms and liberty which are not free.

 

[Rau]

Truthfully speaking, The evil powers and principalities have never ceased to be at work since the resurrection of Jesus Christ. As much as it is tempting here to go political here, I will refrain

I think you mean you decline to answer.

A Majority is all it takes to amend and or change it.

Majority of what? As I understand it, the US does not deal with Constitutional change via referendum, so I guess this goes not mean “majority of the people”?