Love her dearly, but will never understand her...fully

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SarahR said:
Of course. What does this have to do with whether a baptized Lutheran can receive First Holy Communion without any intent of the parents to raise the child Catholic? The child is not becoming Catholic. If he was then it would be a different matter.
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I wouldn’t say no intent. I’d say partial intent from only one parent.
 
gmcbroom said:
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Dear Lutheranteach-

I don’t usually respond but the spirit moved me.

I do believe the Roman Church is the faith established by Jesus and has the complete truth.

I’ll go one better. How about we change this sentence to read as follows? I do believe the Catholic Church is the faith established by Jesus and has the truth.

Why would I make this change? Simple the Lutheran Church was started due to a Catholic priest seeing abuses done within the church at that time. He had questions they were not answered. Basically we’re all humans and we all make mistakes. There were hurt feelings and arrogance on all sides, yes all. So he made and delivered a Thesis and the rest is history. Thus from the Roman Catholic Church the Lutheran Church was born. The sad fact is if Luther had been a Bishop he probably would have had a better welcome and possibly outcome.(Afterall Bishops have the fullness of the faith thats why they ordain priests and deacons) But, that is getting away from why I’m writing this. LutheranTeach I’m not sure if your aware of this but there are actually 22 sur irius ie churches in the Catholic Church. The Roman Church is simply the largest its also very legal and law oriented. Maybe you considered this, maybe you didn’t, but each of these churches has a different patrimony, liturgical style, and message to it. I know I’m not saying this right. Perhaps, and this is all just my opinion here. You could look at the other catholic churches and find one that fits you and your family.
Aside from that, you do seem to have an uphill battle ahead of you. Good luck my friend.
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Interesting.
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Why not check into one of the Anglican churches that converted to Catholicism. If you do, your children may one day be allowed to be married and then ordained as priests. That’s the rumor I’ve been hearing. Even so, it might give you and your wife something to grow into together. The Eastern rite Catholics are in communion with the Church and that is also a good idea in my opinion. But I love the Orthodox Church and would actually love to be one, but my wife is not open to even consider the Eastern Church. So I just wait. I wanted to join one for my childrens’ sake so that they wouldn’t have to consider never marrying if they wanted to become a priest one day as well. Something to consider and talk to your wife about. If you convert to an Eastern Church your son could become a priest one day as well as provide you grandchildren. Kind of like having your cake and eating it too. We attending a mass tonight at an former Anglican community parish. The priest is a grandpa.
 
Even more frustrated after talking with the DRE for a few minutes after mass today. I thought I was asking some very simple yes or no questions.
  1. Does allowing first communion make dear son Catholic?
  2. What is going to be the church’s thoughts on dear son having first communion in Lutheran Church in 5th grade and having Lutheran Catechism in middle school. Does this mean he’s excluded automatically from first communion in Catholic Church? ( I would think so)
I got no answer to any of those. What I got was that dear son “would always have a Lutheran * heritage* that could be acknowledged”

What does that mean? We have a cake on Oct. 31 and sing Mighty Fortress is Our God?
 
Lutheranteach said:
Even more frustrated after talking with the DRE for a few minutes after mass today. I thought I was asking some very simple yes or no questions.
  1. Does allowing first communion make dear son Catholic?
  2. What is going to be the church’s thoughts on dear son having first communion in Lutheran Church in 5th grade and having Lutheran Catechism in middle school. Does this mean he’s excluded automatically from first communion in Catholic Church? ( I would think so)
I got no answer to any of those. What I got was that dear son “would always have a Lutheran * heritage* that could be acknowledged”

What does that mean? We have a cake on Oct. 31 and sing Mighty Fortress is Our God?
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L,

This FHC issue has been going on for literally months on CAF. You’ve posted about it numerous times, and you have consistently gotten the answer that in order to licitly receive the Sacraments in the Catholic Church your son will have to be received into the Catholic Church and this *precludes *receiving Lutheran catechism, Lutheran communion, or Lutheran confirmation.

That your DRE is either ignorant on the subject, purposely obtuse, or (worse) rejects Catholic teaching and is telling you this is OK is a sad statement on the leadership in your parish.

Stop asking her, because she isn’t going to give you authentic Catholic teaching. To reiterate, this is what Church law states on the matter:

Can. 844 §1. Catholic ministers administer the sacraments licitly to Catholic members of the Christian faithful alone, who likewise receive them licitly from Catholic ministers alone, without prejudice to the prescripts of §§2, 3, and 4 of this canon, and ⇒ can. 861, §2.

§4. If the danger of death is present or if, in the judgment of the diocesan bishop or conference of bishops, some other grave necessity urges it, Catholic ministers administer these same sacraments licitly also to other Christians not having full communion with the Catholic Church, who cannot approach a minister of their own community and who seek such on their own accord, provided that they manifest Catholic faith in respect to these sacraments and are properly disposed.

Your son, a non-Catholic (a Lutheran by virtue of his baptism into the Lutheran church), would have to be in *danger of death *or given permission from the Catholic Bishop of your diocese for a *grave cause ***and **be *unable *to approach a Lutheran minister in order to receive the Eucharist without converting to the Catholic faith first.
 
Be a man.

Tell the Pastor the entire thing, including that you and your wife are in an invalid marriage. Ask him to help you in convalidating your marriage so you are no longer a bad influence on your students.

An honest Lutheran would respect the Catholic beliefs and laws, and not set a child up for a fake “1st Communion”. If your child is Lutheran, then raise him as Lutheran.
 
Lutheranteach said:
Even more frustrated after talking with the DRE for a few minutes after mass today. I thought I was asking some very simple yes or no questions.
  1. Does allowing first communion make dear son Catholic?
  2. What is going to be the church’s thoughts on dear son having first communion in Lutheran Church in 5th grade and having Lutheran Catechism in middle school. Does this mean he’s excluded automatically from first communion in Catholic Church? ( I would think so)
I got no answer to any of those. What I got was that dear son “would always have a Lutheran * heritage* that could be acknowledged”

What does that mean? We have a cake on Oct. 31 and sing Mighty Fortress is Our God?
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It means that the person you were asking doesn’t know the answers.
 
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