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Jesus said to love your enemies. Does this mean that I must pray for the repose of the soul of Osama bin Ladin? I find this to be extraordinarily difficult but if I must do it to achieve everlasting life, I will.
One of God’s many gifts to us is life, to suggest that someone doesn’t deserve that is to suggest that God made a mistake. I understand your frustration but you seem to be blatantly questioning God’s judgment. That’s a path that can subtlely lead to disbelief. It’s not a matter of arguing it’s a matter of stating a fact. It IS God’s place to judge them, not yours. If you’re upset that “He is not always forthcoming in his actions” perhaps you should pray and reflect on it instead of suggesting that we as mere humans do something to make up for what you seem to perceive as God’s lack of action. In fact I might suggest going through the OT and reading the book of Job.I don’t care what the Church says, but some people have no right to live. People like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin-Laden to name but three of recent history’s most infamous figures.
For all the atrocities these men committed against mankind they deserved to die. Period, and no further discussion on the matter.
No one can reasonably argue that the world is not a better place without them. Some might argue that it is God’s job and not ours to decide the fate of these kinds of people, but as we all know, He is not always forthcoming in his actions. Somebody has to do something or more innocent lives will be lost because of the actions of people like this.
I have no problem with the idea of these men being put to death. Others will come after them and I’ll personally volunteer to kill them if they deserve it.
This is one of the funniest things I’ve read today lol.[In the meanwhile, don’t let them take my car keys.]
Just a suggestion.One of God’s many gifts to us is life, to suggest that someone doesn’t deserve that is to suggest that God made a mistake.
I am.I understand your frustration but you seem to be blatantly questioning God’s judgment.
Then why does He not act in a more timely manner?That’s a path that can subtlely lead to disbelief. It’s not a matter of arguing it’s a matter of stating a fact. It IS God’s place to judge them, not yours.
Job was a wuss.If you’re upset that “He is not always forthcoming in his actions” perhaps you should pray and reflect on it instead of suggesting that we as mere humans do something to make up for what you seem to perceive as God’s lack of action. In fact I might suggest going through the OT and reading the book of Job.
Beg to differ. If you believe violence just begets more violence, then you aren’t using enough violence in the first place. If someone is committing violence against you and you commit violence back, yes it will go on forever. But if you kill him, there is no more violence.I agree that what these men have done is horrible. But as the old saying goes violence begets violence.
In short, yes. But that does not mean that you cannot celebrate the military victory for what it is- a military victory. God bless the men and women who face death every day so that we can live our lives in relative freedom.Jesus said to love your enemies. Does this mean that I must pray for the repose of the soul of Osama bin Ladin? I find this to be extraordinarily difficult but if I must do it to achieve everlasting life, I will.
How can you expect God’s love to flow through your heart when there is no room for him to work because of all the anger and hate that is already there?I don’t care what the Church says, but some people have no right to live. People like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin-Laden to name but three of recent history’s most infamous figures.
For all the atrocities these men committed against mankind they deserved to die. Period, and no further discussion on the matter.
No one can reasonably argue that the world is not a better place without them. Some might argue that it is God’s job and not ours to decide the fate of these kinds of people, but as we all know, He is not always forthcoming in his actions. Somebody has to do something or more innocent lives will be lost because of the actions of people like this.
I have no problem with the idea of these men being put to death. Others will come after them and I’ll personally volunteer to kill them if they deserve it.
So you would defy God’s law to kill one man who will undoubtedly be replaced by another who will do similar things?
I would certainly kill one evil man if it meant saving the lives of many innocent people.
And who says he will be replaced by another? He was not just a leader; he was an icon or mythical proportions (in his followers eyes, anyhow). Those are big shoes to fill. I doubt anyone can just step in a take over.
Bin Laden did horrible things… but in his view he was justified.
No, you do not. how bout a little common sense. Do you pray for the repose of Ted Bundy’s soul? Jeffery Dhalmer? Any number of killers? Why the Guilt over a Mass Murderer! I am not aiming this at you personally so please dont take it as such. I am sick of the lack of common sense among the bretheren. And the FEAR that if we dont Show chairity to one of the most vile pieces of garbage to ever walk the earth, that God some how faults us! Thank God Osama is Dead. Thank God our wonderful Seals shot him thru the head! I will pray for the woman he held as a human shield, and I will pray for the soldier that was forced to make the decision that cost a non combatants life. I will not pray for Osama Bin Ladin. He Is In Hell! Its time that Catholics acknowledge that some people are truly evil. It is time to accept the bible teaching that some would have been better off having a millstone put around their neck and tossed in the deepest ocean…Hmmmm. He was buried at sea correct? No country would allow him to be buried on their soil.Jesus said to love your enemies. Does this mean that I must pray for the repose of the soul of Osama bin Ladin? I find this to be extraordinarily difficult but if I must do it to achieve everlasting life, I will.
Care to join me in the hunt? We always need Good Combat M.P.'sI don’t care what the Church says, but some people have no right to live. People like Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin-Laden to name but three of recent history’s most infamous figures.
For all the atrocities these men committed against mankind they deserved to die. Period, and no further discussion on the matter.
No one can reasonably argue that the world is not a better place without them. Some might argue that it is God’s job and not ours to decide the fate of these kinds of people, but as we all know, He is not always forthcoming in his actions. Somebody has to do something or more innocent lives will be lost because of the actions of people like this.
I have no problem with the idea of these men being put to death. Others will come after them and I’ll personally volunteer to kill them if they deserve it.
God is also a God of Justice. Plz dont leave that out. I seem to remember him drowning pharoe and the egyptians that terrorized the Children of Israel. I seem to remember him having the cannanites destroyed because they were quite possibly infected with terrible diseases. Mercy to Bin Ladin, is Cruelty to his victims. Think on this. Oh, And like my sergeant says. Violence solves everything. At least in MY line of work. If it were not for violence you would be speaking Japanese, German, or Arabic right now. Very few stand between you and this outcome. If you wish to aid and abet the enemies of the free world with your prayers, feel free. And your welcome. I will pray for my commander in chief, all the innocent civilians affected by this conflict and my fellow soldiers and leadership. I wont waste my breath on a tyrant. Unless said tyrant is in my cross hairs.One of God’s many gifts to us is life, to suggest that someone doesn’t deserve that is to suggest that God made a mistake. I understand your frustration but you seem to be blatantly questioning God’s judgment. That’s a path that can subtlely lead to disbelief. It’s not a matter of arguing it’s a matter of stating a fact. It IS God’s place to judge them, not yours. If you’re upset that “He is not always forthcoming in his actions” perhaps you should pray and reflect on it instead of suggesting that we as mere humans do something to make up for what you seem to perceive as God’s lack of action. In fact I might suggest going through the OT and reading the book of Job.
I agree that what these men have done is horrible. But as the old saying goes violence begets violence.
On a lighter note…
This is one of the funniest things I’ve read today lol.
I like you!Just a suggestion.
I am.
Then why does He not act in a more timely manner?
Job was a wuss.
Beg to differ. If you believe violence just begets more violence, then you aren’t using enough violence in the first place. If someone is committing violence against you and you commit violence back, yes it will go on forever. But if you kill him, there is no more violence.
Or think of Harry Truman. When he gave the orders to drop the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he arguably committed the two most violent acts in the history of the world. But then the greatest war mankind has ever known was over in 5 days, wasn’t it?
Violence works.
Interesting that you bring up “turn the other cheek”. You know that was one of Christ’s teachings right (Matthew 5:39)?Lost Sheep,
I’d like to buy you a beer. You and I see eye to eye on this. Maybe they’ll let us be roomies in purgatory.
As for everyone saying we have to love and pray for our enemies, well, it just aint gonna work all the time. You can turn the other cheek if you like, but all that means is you won’t see the evil person attack you. You think the evil people in this world care one bit that you prayed for them? You’re a victim waiting to happen. I’ve never seen anything in the Bible that says I have to be a victim. I work with evil everyday. It’s what I do. And if they had it their way, I’d be dead and they’d be after your valuables.
Yes, God gave them life. Then free will. They fouled it up after that. Not God, and not me.
Some people just need killin.
If I was still a drinking man, I’d take you up on it.Lost Sheep,
I’d like to buy you a beer. You and I see eye to eye on this. Maybe they’ll let us be roomies in purgatory.
As for everyone saying we have to love and pray for our enemies, well, it just aint gonna work all the time. You can turn the other cheek if you like, but all that means is you won’t see the evil person attack you. You think the evil people in this world care one bit that you prayed for them? You’re a victim waiting to happen. I’ve never seen anything in the Bible that says I have to be a victim. I work with evil everyday. It’s what I do. And if they had it their way, I’d be dead and they’d be after your valuables.
Yes, God gave them life. Then free will. They fouled it up after that. Not God, and not me.
Some people just need killin.