Luke 22:19 - Which will be

[Sugar_Ray]

Not long ago I read a defense of the real presence using Luke 22:19. “This IS my body, which WILL be given up for you”. It is clear here that the body that Jesus refers to, the bread in his hands, is the same body that will hang on the cross.

I thought to myslef that this is the simplest and yet most powerful proof from scripture of the real presence. I don’t see how this can be refuted by our non-Catholic friends.

Am I missing something?

Interestingly…in the NIV Bible Luke 22:19 omits the words “which will be” and simply says “this is my body given for you”.

Curious for your thoughts…Catholics and non-Catholics.

 

[Montie_Claunch]

Sugar Ray:

Not long ago I read a defense of the real presence using Luke 22:19. “This IS my body, which WILL be given up for you”. It is clear here that the body that Jesus refers to, the bread in his hands, is the same body that will hang on the cross.

I thought to myslef that this is the simplest and yet most powerful proof from scripture of the real presence. I don’t see how this can be refuted by our non-Catholic friends.

Am I missing something?

Interestingly…in the NIV Bible Luke 22:19 omits the words “which will be” and simply says “this is my body given for you”.

Curious for your thoughts…Catholics and non-Catholics.

well. Other than being a rather odd translation of the verse, I don’t see how it alters the verse all that much. I would assume that with that and John 6 with the “unless you eat my body and drink…” you would still logically get the real precese. Does that help (am I misunderstanding the question)?

 

[jesusluv]

Well, a protestant will say “Jesus didn’t mean literally that the bread was his body”. I know this because I’ve been one for 26 years and by the grace of God, I will be entering the church next Easter Vigil.

Now, after a protestant gives you the above quote, they can’t back it up because generally speaking, before telling you that, they state that they believe that what the Bible says is what they believes.

It should be “what the Bible says is what I believe…unless it supports someone elses belief system, because my interpretation is right.”

Some of you can get mad and that is great and wonderful, but if you get mad or offended by that, you just got your toes stepped on.

 

[thistle]

jesusluv:

Well, a protestant will say “Jesus didn’t mean literally that the bread was his body”. I know this because I’ve been one for 26 years and by the grace of God, I will be entering the church next Easter Vigil.

Now, after a protestant gives you the above quote, they can’t back it up because generally speaking, before telling you that, they state that they believe that what the Bible says is what they believes.

It should be “what the Bible says is what I believe…unless it supports someone elses belief system, because my interpretation is right.”

Some of you can get mad and that is great and wonderful, but if you get mad or offended by that, you just got your toes stepped on.

Luke 22:19 adds “do this in memory of me”. Protestants use that phrase to argue that Jesus wanted us to take bread and wine as a token to remember him. I was a methodist but converted to the Catholic Church. I believe in the real presence.

 

[jesusluv]

thistle:

Luke 22:19 adds “do this in memory of me”. Protestants use that phrase to argue that Jesus wanted us to take bread and wine as a token to remember him. I was a methodist but converted to the Catholic Church. I believe in the real presence.

You are absolutely right, it was late last night and I was venting when I had my mini-rant.

 

[LSK]

I do not have the Bible verser in front of me, but I seem to remember a Gospel account of Jesus refering to himself as food and being rejected by the listenners because they were appalled by the idea of ‘cannibalism’. I note that NO Bible translation - even a really really BAD one - has Jesus then calling everyone back and saying, “WAIT a minute, everyone, I was speaking symbolically”.

 

[On_my_way]

I have a lot of non-C family members and friends who have a problem with the Eucharist. I just tell them to read all of John 6. Some of my friends tell my that it is symbolic and some say that it does not mean we have to take it literally. I just laugh and say that His words are to be taken literally and not symbolicly.

It says in John 6:54-55, “Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood HAS eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my FLESH is TRUE food, and my BLOOD is TRUE drink.” Sounds to me that HE means what HE says.

Not once did I read the word symbolic in the Bible when Jesus was talking about HIS body and blood. It’s a shame how non-C use the Bible and Gods words and puts a twist in it to fit their beliefs. Sad but true.

 

[Mickey]

thistle:

Luke 22:19 adds “do this in memory of me”. Protestants use that phrase to argue that Jesus wanted us to take bread and wine as a token to remember him. I was a methodist but converted to the Catholic Church. I believe in the real presence.

You are correct. It’s sad that they don’t understand what He is saying here. Remember Me as you partake of My true Body and my true Blood.