LXX & Masoretic Text

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Shamati said:
Because the holiest saints says so. End of story

No scholars of the “me-generation” can override the fact that the Saintly Scholars of the early church said that the Greek Old Testament should be the standard. Therefor I think it should. We should use the one used by the Saints themselves.

We should follow the advice of the fathers and leave our minds behind and reach to where understanding can not reach

In reality. Catholicism is faaaar closer to Protestantism than orthodox christianity.
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We go back to the question: did every saint in that period use the Greek Septuagint? Where would that put Syriac Christians and post-Hieronymian Latin Christians? Were they somehow using inferior Scriptures because they used versions that are not (totally) derived from the LXX? (Especially the Vulgate.) This kinda sounds to me like a stereotypical KJV-onlyism mentality: if the King James Version is the inspired word of God, what about people who did not and do not speak English and use other versions?

I won’t deny that Latin Catholicism has some closer links to Protestantism (which after all broke from it) than Eastern Christianity. There’s a huge difference in emphasizing some theological points. Incidentally I should talk about Sacred Tradition. The East sees Tradition as something fixed and unchangeable. In Eastern thinking, it was handed down complete as it is: it is not regarded as something which grows and expands over time, forming a collection of practices and doctrines which accrue, gradually becoming something more developed. The West sees it a little differently: the Faith continues to deepen and develop over time, and in our understanding of it, all the while staying the same in essence.
 
I think the end answer is the Holy Spirit at work in Sacred Scripture. I end up where the Roman Catholic Church places us in interpretation and translation of Scripture because our Tradition is a living tradition set in our heart and souls.

But likewise we must be open to different interpretations of those who are outside, and hold onto shared faith in God with one another through ongoing dialogue and recognition of others’ traditions.

Likewise, I see the Roman Church strong and a witness to the world irregardless of its internal problems and scandals that come up from time to time.

The Church is also in the position of on going reform.

Again, I appreciate all the posts here and see value and reason in each one.
 
Out of interest I was browsing through the web and found this interesting table of redactions, please scroll around half down this website.

Quote “These are not random, inconsequential differences between the texts. Rather, these appear to be places where the Masoretes (or their forebears) had a varied selection of texts to consider, and their decisions were influenced by anti-Christian bias.
 
This is part of the reason I came to study this thread, as the Masoretic text derived…if that is correct term, from traditions that did not accept Christ.

I really have to spend time rereading all the posts on this thread…Thanks, Augustine.
 
KathleenGee said:
This is part of the reason I came to study this thread, as the Masoretic text derived…if that is correct term, from traditions that did not accept Christ.

I really have to spend time rereading all the posts on this thread…Thanks, Augustine.
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You’re welcome sister 🙂

As I understand it the Masoretes took on the task of adding vowels, as all prior Hebrew scriptures did not have vowels only consonants. The alphabet in the time of Moses was totally different to the Hebrew the Masoretes translated their texts. So they provided great lexiconic work. Once again it’s their anti-Christian beliefs that lead them to key redactions.
 
This is what my friend told me over the breakfast table, and reaffirmed my Catholicism in how the Church discerned the proper interpretation of Sacred Scripture. Likewise, we cannot reject all that does not contradict Christ either of the other tradition.

I need to spend time to study this thread so I can go back and share its point at our next breakfast gathering.

God bless!
 
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