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Just opening this thread up for hopefully, a discussion of the debate if anyone cares to.
Thought it was a good debate, a lively audience, I didn’t quite get when there seemed to be a bit of booing.
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Thought it was a good debate, a lively audience, I didn’t quite get when there seemed to be a bit of booing.
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I thought it was a pretty good debate too. I watched all of the undercard debate, and I watched the last 70 minutes of the Prime Time Debate.
In the undercard debate:
Lindsey Graham surprised. I’ll admit, he surprised me. He was pretty energetic, had some funny jokes. Jindal sounded solid. Pataki sounded solid. Santorum sounded solid. I’m not sure there was a clear winner in this debate. My gut though is saying Rick Santorum was in the Top 2. I think the last man standing from the undercard people will be Rick Santorum. Will he be able to last into Iowa? I don’t know.
In the 70 Minutes I saw in the Prime Time Debate:
Rubio sounded good, and his attacks on the media, I think, will help him rise up in the polls. Christie was entertaining to watch too. Trump was, well, Trump. Dr. Carson, as usual, sounds calm. But I think the biggest question that this Debate was trying to answer is: what is Jeb Bush’s future? Can he still be the nominee? He was pretty solid, from the last 70 minutes I saw. He’s a good policy man. But he didn’t have that “Fiorina” moment. I’d like to hear the thoughts of other people who watched all of the Prime time debate.
In the undercard debate:
Lindsey Graham surprised. I’ll admit, he surprised me. He was pretty energetic, had some funny jokes. Jindal sounded solid. Pataki sounded solid. Santorum sounded solid. I’m not sure there was a clear winner in this debate. My gut though is saying Rick Santorum was in the Top 2. I think the last man standing from the undercard people will be Rick Santorum. Will he be able to last into Iowa? I don’t know.
In the 70 Minutes I saw in the Prime Time Debate:
Rubio sounded good, and his attacks on the media, I think, will help him rise up in the polls. Christie was entertaining to watch too. Trump was, well, Trump. Dr. Carson, as usual, sounds calm. But I think the biggest question that this Debate was trying to answer is: what is Jeb Bush’s future? Can he still be the nominee? He was pretty solid, from the last 70 minutes I saw. He’s a good policy man. But he didn’t have that “Fiorina” moment. I’d like to hear the thoughts of other people who watched all of the Prime time debate.
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Trump should try to get Rubio as his running mate, in my opinion.
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lax16
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I just don’t think Jeb looks or sounds presidential (not that his brother did either).
Rubio is smart as a whip but too young. Came out swinging against the biased media.
Trump was more likeable tonight. Not as many snarky comments but very confident.
Carson is very gentle and humorous - I can’t see him as president.
Cruz said he is only 44 years old - did I hear him correctly? He appears a good ten years older than that.
Fiorina remains steady and had excellent responses. Turned lemons into lemonade.
Christie…hmmm…I like him. Not sure. He grows on me.
Paul looked pale and out of pace.
Kasich sounded like a politician.
Hucabee sounded like a preacher.
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lax16
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I said the same thing to my family.
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Inquiringperson
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Good Golly you’re right! Cruz is 44! (According to Wikipedia) Meanwhile, Marco still looks like he’s in his 30’s. As a side note, turns out Scott Walker is 47.
Jeb… I like Jeb. I’m not afraid to admit that he’s a politician I look up too. He’s a good policy wonk… and that might be it. He just doesn’t seem that media savvy like Trump is. And that’s a problem. The GOP has a problem with communicating how their policies help working Americans. Jeb has good policy (kinda like Mitt Romney), but the main reason why Mitt lost (and something that Jeb will have to focus on if he becomes the nominee) is that Mitt seemed rich, out of touch. Romney didn’t connect with voters like Obama did, and although Mitt had good policy… to paraphrase Rick Santorum, it’s not going to matter if voters feel like you don’t care for them. Jeb’s going to have to overcome these issues if he ends up becoming the nominee.
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Trump said it was a good debate but I see the analysts said the moderators were very biased, I agree, they did ask unkind questions.
I wish I saw the earlier debate, I caught some excerpts.
I thought Cristie did well but I’m not sure if Cristie will get traction. I’ve liked him and he did well in answering the question about a car maker making a defective product that has killed people and Cristie said he’d indeed, put them behind bars. Cristie also did well when the fantasy football question was brought up saying, paraphrasing “we’ve got all these problems and we’re talking about fantasy football?”
Cruz did well, Bush did okay, as I think said on the O’Reilly show, Bush is more of a Wonk type so it is difficult for him to have real fire in the belly.
Carly Fiorina did okay but wasn’t dominant as in that last debate.
Rubio did well. Trump was calm. Huckabee had good answers, Kasich okay, Paul pretty low-profile. Ben wasn’t that noticeable but the questions he got he answered well. I think I’ve covered about all of them.
I wish I saw the earlier debate, I caught some excerpts.
I thought Cristie did well but I’m not sure if Cristie will get traction. I’ve liked him and he did well in answering the question about a car maker making a defective product that has killed people and Cristie said he’d indeed, put them behind bars. Cristie also did well when the fantasy football question was brought up saying, paraphrasing “we’ve got all these problems and we’re talking about fantasy football?”
Cruz did well, Bush did okay, as I think said on the O’Reilly show, Bush is more of a Wonk type so it is difficult for him to have real fire in the belly.
Carly Fiorina did okay but wasn’t dominant as in that last debate.
Rubio did well. Trump was calm. Huckabee had good answers, Kasich okay, Paul pretty low-profile. Ben wasn’t that noticeable but the questions he got he answered well. I think I’ve covered about all of them.
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Path_Finder
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I honestly think, Cruz, out campaigning and with all of those dinners has probably put on maybe up to 20 pounds.
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Exiled_Child
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Yeah, it couldn’t fail to give Trump a bit more credibility with Republicans.
Rubio comes across as sane, which might sort of balance out The Donald a bit.
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Path_Finder
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I disagree; that is insulting towards Trump; but to make a remark about a helicopter was extremely unkind.Yeah, it couldn’t fail to give Trump a bit more credibility with Republicans.
Rubio comes across as sane, which might sort of balance out The Donald a bit.
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lax16
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I know some Hispanics that “hate” Trump and “love” Hilary. (and they are Catholic so it is obviously more about the immigration issue).Yeah, it couldn’t fail to give Trump a bit more credibility with Republicans.
Rubio comes across as sane, which might sort of balance out The Donald a bit.
Maybe Rubio can help bring in the Hispanic vote for Trump.
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lax16
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That’s not surprising. He certainly alienated many Hispanic voters with his comments.
It will be interesting to see if there is anything he can say or do to win their support.
He has about an 11% approval rating among Hispanics, I believe I read somewhere.
facebook.com/HispanicsforTrump
mobile.twitter.com/Hispanics4Trump
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Path_Finder
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Trump doesn’t play identity politics, his message is for all Americans and plenty across the board like him.
If people want to allow some lawbreaking, let’s hope those for the enforcement of the law overcome this. We don’t need all of the damage caused by illegal immigration.
If people want to allow some lawbreaking, let’s hope those for the enforcement of the law overcome this. We don’t need all of the damage caused by illegal immigration.
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Path_Finder
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I guess the Hispanics can majority vote for the abortion supporting politicians as they usually do, perhaps Dr. Ben can be the running mate and Trump makes it up with the African American vote. I thought some poll too showed Trump did okay with Hispanics.
townhall.com/columnists/humbertofontova/2015/09/04/migrant-to-mexico-defends-trump-denounces-ramos-n2048159
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Path_Finder
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Polls also show high percentages of Americans are against amnesty. Maybe as much as 69%; so those figures speak well for Trump. Most Americans do not care for illegal immigration, we have our own problems to deal with.
65% of all women have to vote for Clinton for her chances I heard, so we will see.
65% of all women have to vote for Clinton for her chances I heard, so we will see.
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Well, you’re right in a sense, but I didn’t mean it as an insult. What I meant was, I don’t think Trump can win over the majority of Republicans unless he has someone who is widely perceived as “sensible” to mainline Republicans. Rubio is that kind of person, whereas someone like Carson is the precise opposite, because he has a habit of shooting his mouth off without thinking. Rubio doesn’t do that. I’m not putting anyone down necessarily, or being uncharitable, I just think that’s the political reality, good or bad.
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lax16
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Somewhere I heard/read that many legal Hispanics are tired of the crime, drugs and loss of jobs due to illegal Mexican immigrants.
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Trump has never had a shot. I’m glad my guy Rubio finally had a breakout performance
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GOP chairman: CNBC should be ‘ashamed’ of how it handled debate
miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article41771442.html
Look at this tweet regarding something Carl Quintanilla said to Carly Fiorina:
He didn’t need to make the point that way. It sounds snarky.
miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article41771442.html
Look at this tweet regarding something Carl Quintanilla said to Carly Fiorina:
twitter.com/richardgrenell/status/659529446483857408
He didn’t need to make the point that way. It sounds snarky.
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