Major Anglican Group Prepares for Full Communion with Rome

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by Edward Pentin
National Catholic Register
December 24, 2005

The Traditional Anglican Communion has drawn up detailed plans on how to come into full communion with Rome .

ncregister.com/articulo2.php?artkod=NTQ=

Note: Details in the print edition of the National Catholic Register. Synopsis: TAC’s College of Bishops will meet this February to approve a “Pastoral Plan” the 400,000 member strong Tradional Anglican Communion has developed in consultation with the Vatican over the last 12 years. Soon after, the plan for full communion of an “Anglican Rite Church” will submitted to the Vatican.
 
Wow, if this comes to pass, and lets all hope and pray it does. Could this be the largest reconciliation with Rome of any Western Christian body since the 16th century Reformation?
 
Catholic29…perhaps even more than that. TAC’s worldwide primate, Archbishop John Hepworth (a former Catholic priest). is quoted by the NCR as saying:

“My broad vision is to see the end of the Reformation of the 16th century”

Merry Christmas my Catholic friends!
 
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Catholic29…perhaps even more than that. TAC’s worldwide primate, Archbishop John Hepworth (a former Catholic priest). is quoted by the NCR as saying:

“My broad vision is to see the end of the Reformation of the 16th century”

Merry Christmas my Catholic friends!
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Rather amazingly St. Paul of the Cross and the Cure d’Ars both foresaw the return of England to the “fold” of the Roman Catholic church. St. Paul said it would be guided by his order… the Passionists.
 
This is something to be fervantly prayed for! This is the C.S. Lewis wing of the Anglicans/Episcopalians ya know…might have an effect on a lot of Evangelicals too!

I think that JP2 has a lot to do with this. His life and death made many Christians take a deep breath and think!
 
hope this comes about, what a fantastic christmas present for christ
 
first off, this has been at least 12 years in the making, and it is still a long ways away from our churches being united. i’m sure they will be adamant about thier married clergy. also, TAC is just one small group of catholic like protestants among millions of protestants world wide. traditional anglicans are a minority among protestants.

if this guy thinks he’s bringing an end to the reformation, i think he’s being very optomistic. it’s going to take many more years to see some serious coversions in terms of numbers.

either way this is good news and i hope they will come back home.
 
oat soda:
first off, this has been at least 12 years in the making, and it is still a long ways away from our churches being united. i’m sure they will be adamant about thier married clergy. also, TAC is just one small group of catholic like protestants among millions of protestants world wide. traditional anglicans are a minority among protestants.

if this guy thinks he’s bringing an end to the reformation, i think he’s being very optomistic. it’s going to take many more years to see some serious coversions in terms of numbers.

either way this is good news and i hope they will come back home.
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Of course it´s a small step, but it´s a step.
 
It’s a bigger step than you think. Essentially a large part of the church going Anglican community (tiny as they are) is close to returning to Rome. Granted this is NOT the end of the Reformation and England is now essentially pagan, but it will have ripple effects among Episcopalians and others in the U.S. as well. I for one think (and pray) that the UK will get sick and tired (above all BORED) with atheism/paganism as will the rest of Europe. When they get serious they’ll notice that the other serious people are looking to Rome.

CS Lewis would almost certainly be involved with this so now I can say that both The Lord of the Rings AND Narnia were written by Catholics! (and believe me I’m going to say it often! Lol).
 
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David_Paul:
by Edward Pentin
National Catholic Register
December 24, 2005

The Traditional Anglican Communion has drawn up detailed plans on how to come into full communion with Rome .

ncregister.com/articulo2.php?artkod=NTQ=

Note: Details in the print edition of the National Catholic Register. Synopsis: TAC’s College of Bishops will meet this February to approve a “Pastoral Plan” the 400,000 member strong Tradional Anglican Communion has developed in consultation with the Vatican over the last 12 years. Soon after, the plan for full communion of an “Anglican Rite Church” will submitted to the Vatican.
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As a former Anglican (now Catholic) I earnestly pray that this comes to pass. If it does, my guess is that larger numbers of Anglicans would follow.

May the 17th chapter of St. John’s Gospel quickly come to fruition.

Blessings,
 
“Liberalizing” Christianity doesn’t work. Not sure if having the faith fade away was/is the intent of progressives but that is the effect. I was raised Congregational/Unitarian. In the early Republic, both were strong factors in American politics and society. Today they are insignificient on the national scene (and the latter makes no claim to being Christian at all as it did when Channing preached).
 
The link wouldn’t open for some reason, so my comments may be a bit random, and if so, please forgive me.

If they are adamant about their married priests, how about this… could they be Anglican Rite Catholics? I don’t know if such a thing exists, but if it doesn’t, could it in the future? Byzantine Rite Catholic priests can marry, and they are in communion with Rome.
 
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… could they be Anglican Rite Catholics?
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From what I understand that is exactly what is being proposed. What they will keep and what they will not is under discussion.

The full text of the article from the NCR and Anglican comments are here at VirtueOnLine.

Hesitated to post the link before because it is not a Catholic forum and I’ve heard Catholics express doubt about the site. So if the mods feel it is inappropiate, my apologizes and please delete.
 
Good news. C.S. Lewis would be at the head of this movement. He talks in the Chronicles of Narnia about the throne of Peter (a normal boy who became a high king, representing Aslan on Narnia), and it is passed to the next rightful kings not necessarily by blood. He was an Anglican when it was not so far removed from the Church.
Also, the more Rites the Catholic Church accepts that allow married priests, the more likely it seems that the Roman Catholic Church will make celibacy optional. I don’t promote it etiher way. If I become a priest and all of a sudden we can marry, fine. Either way, it will be the will of the Church.
 
So they wish to form a second Western Church? I think many of the Roman Bishops will not like this.

I wonder what the TAC plan for married priests and married bishops that they have.

I am not sure this is a good idea and I thank God that I do not have to decide on it but I will be very surprised if it happens.

By the way, this was brought up in the Apologetics forum a couple of weeks ago.

The thread can be found here, TAC Prepares for Full Communion With Rome.

I went into my thoughts on this a bit more there in post #16.
 
David, the Byzantine Catholic,
So they wish to form a second Western Church? I think many of the Roman Bishops will not like this.
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I wonder what the TAC plan for married priests and married bishops that they have.
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I am not sure this is a good idea and I thank God that I do not have to decide on it but I will be very surprised if it happens.
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Why would communion with the Traditional Anglicans be a bad thing?
Why won’t the wesern bishops like it? Competition? What is there to be competetive about?

I for one am extremely excited.
I will be having interesting discussions with my Evangelical Anglo friends…
 
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David, the Byzantine Catholic,

Why would communion with the Traditional Anglicans be a bad thing?
Why won’t the wesern bishops like it? Competition? What is there to be competetive about?

I for one am extremely excited.
I will be having interesting discussions with my Evangelical Anglo friends…
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As an ex Anglican Vicar, let me clear up a few points.
  1. The problem is no longer married priests. The Bishops of the Catholic Church here in UK have been quite outstanding over that and have accepted many ex Anglican Vicars (and their wives) very warmly. The problem, of course, is the enormous number of women Vicars and Deans and, shortly no doubt, Bishops. I am not at all sure they will fit into a predominantly male Cathoic priesthood. I am not at all sure either what the Catholic Church will say about their orders.
  2. The anglican church is very, very broad. The current Archbishop of Canterbury often visited our Theological College as a young man. He was then terribly Liberal. I don’t think he will ever become a true Catholic. It would be nice to ask him a straight question: Do you believe in the Resurrection as an historical event? Do you accept the Blessed Sacrament as the Body and Blood of Christ?
  3. Most of the Catholic wing of the Anglicans left over the women priests ordination in about 1990. After that, only the Liberals and the Evangelicals were left. Today, in our area of UK certainly, the C of E is very largely neglected and seems to be dying out. There are a few exceptions, of course. In my village, for instance, the Church is closed all the time and the Vicar is a part timer who does house for duty in the next village. She turns out for funerals and so on, but she doesn’t know anybody. She is already retired from another job.
    My advice is, don’t get too excited. God is working in His own way.
 
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David, the Byzantine Catholic,

Why would communion with the Traditional Anglicans be a bad thing?
Why won’t the wesern bishops like it? Competition? What is there to be competetive about?

I for one am extremely excited.
I will be having interesting discussions with my Evangelical Anglo friends…
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Daniel,
The TAC entering communion would not be a bad thing but keep in mind, if they do enter into communion they would be Catholic not Traditional Anglicans.

The issue I have is the appearance of rewarding the schism that created the Anglican Church in the first place. All of the Church Churches that make up the Catholic Church have very ancient roots, the Anglican Church does to, but for them it is through the Latin Church.

I think the Latin Church Bishops will have the same issues they had in the 1930’s when the Byzantine Churches came to America.

Also there is the unanswered question of married clergy and married bishops.

There are a lot of unanswered questions, but there should be as the TAC still has to vote on this before anything can move forward.
 
As much as I would like to see it, I don’t think the Traditional Anglicans believe in purgatory, papal infallibility, and several other doctrines/dogmas (Immaculate Conception & Assumption, etc). In the Catholic Church priests cannot marry. The Catholic Church allows married men to become priests in some cases, but can never allow priests to marry.

Rome should not accept them if the reasons for joining are the problems of the Anglican Church. Only when they accept the Catholic Church as the true Church (along with all of its teachings), should they be accepted. No use making them a Latin Anglican Rite, and then have them splitting from the Catholic Church once they disagree with the Church.
 
I think this group does accept those dogmatic points. The married episcopacy issue is tough, no Apostolic Church East or West has had that since ancient times. And yes, once ordained, a Priest cannot marry.
 
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