Major scandal; Now proven that the entire global warming threat is based on fabricated data

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I find the Global Warming farrago utterly fascinating. It is a amalgam of two utterly disctict non Christian viewpoints…humanism and pagan Gaia/Earth mother worship.

Humanism in that it insists “we” create our circumstances. Gaia worship in that it transposes the notion of sin to be anything which increases Global warming. Thus travelling by car is sinful as is dyeing clothes.

These viewpoints are utterly divergent but share a loathing of an acceptance that God is Our Father nd that He charts the course of history.
 
I think it is incredibly important to understand these so-called “scientists”.

UEA professor Mike Hulme, an early author of the hockeystick nonsense, is a “post-normal” scientist. For you “normal” folks, this means he is perfectly willing to sacrifice truth on the altar of power. Read more here and here and here.

He is now advocating abandoning IPCC, but this is a feint to save himself and “the cause.”

Hulme statement:
"Climate change is too important to be left to scientists - least of all the normal ones."

Dangerous, Dangerous, DANGEROUS.
 
I think it is incredibly important to understand these so-called “scientists”.

UEA professor Mike Hulme, an early author of the hockeystick nonsense, is a “post-normal” scientist. For you “normal” folks, this means he is perfectly willing to sacrifice truth on the altar of power. Read more here and here and here.

He is now advocating abandoning IPCC, but this is a feint to save himself and “the cause.”

Hulme statement:
"Climate change is too important to be left to scientists - least of all the normal ones."

Dangerous, Dangerous, DANGEROUS.
They are Cultists. You are right to warn and among the many problems they are causing is the fact that all the attention on this mirage is preventing real action on real environmental issues of which there are many.
 
It is true that rising temperature and changing climate in general isn;t really direct evidence that humans are causing it. However there is plenty of evidence that we play a big part in the current climate change.

First of all co2 is a greenhouse gas we have known this for quite awhile now, aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm

And Co2 has risen quite a bit over the past century or so. And this link explains how we know the rise is due to mankind. realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/how-do-we-know-that-recent-cosub2sub-increases-are-due-to-human-activities-updated/

This link explains things further. skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-global-warming.html

Of course we should look at other potential causes as well. Like the sun for instance but it seems the sun doesn;t quite cover it…skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

Neither do volcanoes the amount of co2 released from human activities far surpasses that released by volcanoes. volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php

Comparison of CO2 emissions from volcanoes vs. human activities.
Scientists have calculated that volcanoes emit between about 130-230 million tonnes (145-255 million tons) of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (Gerlach, 1999, 1991). This estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes, about in equal amounts. Emissions of CO2 by human activities, including fossil fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring, amount to about 27 billion tonnes per year (30 billion tons) ( Marland, et al., 2006) - The reference gives the amount of released carbon (C), rather than CO2, through 2003.]. Human activities release more than 130 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes–the equivalent of more than 8,000 additional volcanoes like Kilauea (Kilauea emits about 3.3 million tonnes/year)! (Gerlach et. al., 2002)

Anyway I could probably go on but currently the theory that best supports the observations and evidence of the recent climate change is greenhouse gas related warming much of which is attributable to man.
 
The only scandal is people making these statements about Global Warming despite the facts:

The following link is to our own page on Global Warming and explains the science, giving links to the web sites and Nasa’s own links site.
Global Warming
This is the real science - no scandal involved as you will see.
 
Real climate made a recent post about data I thought would be good to post here. To show people just how much data is already publically available.

realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
Hiyas:)

Let’s ponder the following email from Mann to Jones:

"Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you’re free to use RC (realclimate.org) in any way
you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be careful about
what comments we screen through, and we’ll be very careful to answer any
questions that come up to any extent we can. On the other hand, you
might want to visit the thread and post replies yourself. We can hold
comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think
they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you’d
like us to include.

You’re also welcome to do a followup guest post, etc. think of RC as a
resource that is at your disposal to combat any disinformation put
forward by the McIntyres of the world. Just let us know. We’ll use our
best discretion to make sure the skeptics dont’get to use the RC
comments as a megaphone…

mike"

Interesting enough in and of itself, but who owns realclimate.org? A whois.com search gives us the answer:
whois.net/whois/realclimate.com
Environmental Media Services, Washington DC. EMS was founded by one Arlie Schardt. And Mr Schardt just happens to be Al Gore’s communications director for his 2000 presidential run, among other things:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Media_Services
 
The only scandal is people making these statements about Global Warming despite the facts:

The following link is to our own page on Global Warming and explains the science, giving links to the web sites and Nasa’s own links site.
Global Warming
This is the real science - no scandal involved as you will see.
If all of this was a matter of the proper pronunciation of “potato” and “tomato”, it would all be just a big fun debate. But it isn’t. This is about greatly increasing the cost of home heating, transportation and food, and even greater impairment of American industry relative to that of other countries. That GW is contrary to the experience of most Americans, a situation that has led the proponents to change the terminology from “MMGW” to “MMCC”; that reputable scientists disagree and have their own data to support their propositions; that there has been this game of dishonesty among the foremost promoters of MMGW; that even that NASA site some are so proud of admits that it really doesn’t have a clear understanding of changes in climate and that the foremost proponents of CO2 reduction don’t walk the walk at all, should give politicians a lot more pause than it has.

That there is big money in this for favored corporations and in potential taxation for government to spend, should give us all a LOT of pause.
 
Hiyas:)

Interesting enough in and of itself, but who owns realclimate.org? A whois.com search gives us the answer:
whois.net/whois/realclimate.com
Environmental Media Services, Washington DC. EMS was founded by one Arlie Schardt. And Mr Schardt just happens to be Al Gore’s communications director for his 2000 presidential run, among other things:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Media_Services
Anyone willing to lay odds that that will stop Calliso from using it? :rolleyes:
 
Real climate made a recent post about data I thought would be good to post here. To show people just how much data is already publically available.

realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
Why quote a site that has been shown to, uh, shade the truth?

What good is raw data that is “adjusted” to show warming?

What good is science from “post-normal” scientists that are willling to lie?

How reliable is a site that is paid for by a PR firm?
 
I find the Global Warming farrago utterly fascinating. It is a amalgam of two utterly disctict non Christian viewpoints…humanism and pagan Gaia/Earth mother worship.

Humanism in that it insists “we” create our circumstances. Gaia worship in that it transposes the notion of sin to be anything which increases Global warming. Thus travelling by car is sinful as is dyeing clothes.

These viewpoints are utterly divergent but share a loathing of an acceptance that God is Our Father nd that He charts the course of history.
I don’t think the Holy Father is guilty of Gaia worship or accusing anyone of being sinful in doing what they must do in their lives… but that we need to work for the good of all
Pope Benedict XVI;
“Water resources and climate change are subjects of great importance for the whole human family,” the pope said, calling for people to “pray and work for greater respect for the marvels of divine creation.”
 
The recent so-called “hacker leaks” will most likely be highly damaging to the whole “Global Warming” movement if it’s covered by the media, but one doesn’t really even need this new evidence (albeit as of yet unsubstantiated, I think it will be, but we’ll see) to get a very good indication that “Global Warming” is a hoax, mostly kept alive for political purposes.

The Climatologist, Roy Spencer, who has worked for NASA and testified in front of Congress on this very topic outlines how skeptical he is of what he believes is pseudo-science produced by government grants (and the threat of not getting them) and political games. His book Climate Confusion is a very good analysis and commentary on the current science and political machinations that he experienced testifying in front of Congress. I’d definitely recommend it, it’s a very good read, and it’s actually written by a guy who’s not just a “meteorologist” but someone who’s spend his live studying the climate, with NASA for a time, and to this day is still called to testify in front of Congress (he did so recently again) despite his politically “unpopular” views.
 
The Climatologist, Roy Spencer, who has worked for NASA and testified in front of Congress on this very topic outlines how skeptical he is of what he believes is pseudo-science produced by government grants (and the threat of not getting them) and political games. His book Climate Confusion is a very good analysis and commentary on the current science and political machinations that he experienced testifying in front of Congress. I’d definitely recommend it, it’s a very good read, and it’s actually written by a guy who’s not just a “meteorologist” but someone who’s spend his live studying the climate, with NASA for a time, and to this day is still called to testify in front of Congress (he did so recently again) despite his politically “unpopular” views.
Sounds very similar to Max Gerson who found the cure for cancer and diabetes in the 1930s, he testified in front of the senate in 1946 with 5 cured patients and instead of taking the cure, the pharmaceutical companies sold poison (chemo and radiation) to the government. Gerson continued with his work to save lives and in 1957 he fell sick and someone stole the book he was writing. He went on his own therapy and beat the poison remade the manuscript with his daughter Charlotte (whom he saved from tuberculosis in the 1920s) and in 1959 he fell sick again after publishing his first book a “cancer therapy result of 50 cases”, before dying he tested his blood and confirmed that there was arsenic in his blood (someone poisoned him). To this day in the US, the cure for cancer and diabetes are banned for business reasons.

Hopefully the NASA guy doesn’t suffer the same fate as the man who cured cancer and diabetes.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some kind of governmental shenanigans in that case, those kind of things can get highly politicized, but I don’t think the government happens to have the cure for cancer and diabetes and just is refusing to give it out to make a buck. That sounds more like a conspiracy theory, I would need considerable documentation confirming that to believe they have, and are withholding, the cure. After all, they could use the cure and still make a lot of money if they had it, and given how things work it probably would have leaked, or someone in another country would have found the same cure by now. The real reason the “global warming” scare has held on so long is that the mainstream media has kept it alive, partly because they were and are duped, but to a large extent because it feeds ratings. If they broke a story like the one your described that would spike ratings more than one can imagine. The media is always good for stories that are fantastic and create hysteria.
 
Environmental Media Services, Washington DC. EMS was founded by one Arlie Schardt. And Mr Schardt just happens to be Al Gore’s communications director for his 2000 presidential run, among other things:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environ…Media_Services

AND who is EMS

activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/110
We need to find out if Al Gore and his family is still collecting “lease” payments from Occidental Petroleum for access to zinc deposits on the Gore family farm. Gore (Sr) was collecting from them for YEARS. [Why would an oil company be interested in zinc?]

Occidental Petroleum used to be controlled by Armand Hammer who was a VERY active agent of the Soviet Union.

This thread of associations is vital to understanding what is underlying all of the Gore advocacy.

Click here and scroll down to the last paragraph:

rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=102425

There is so much information on the financial connections between Gore and the Soviet Union, it’s incredible.

Excellent article:

corpwatch.org/article.php?id=468

There is so much information!! Just visit Google and type in “Al Gore Occidental Petroleum”. The conflict(s) of interest is/ are astounding!
 
We need to find out if Al Gore and his family is still collecting “lease” payments from Occidental Petroleum for access to zinc deposits on the Gore family farm. Gore (Sr) was collecting from them for YEARS. [Why would an oil company be interested in zinc?]
Hiyas:)
Environmental Trendiness (and Hypocrisy)
In the past, Al Gore has made his environmental positions a big part of his message, notably in his book “Earth in the Balance”, which sold well. We don’t critique candidates’ policy positions, but some of that may come back to haunt him by making him look extreme, trendy or hypocritical.
Gore runs the risk of being shown up as a hypocrite, the way Mike Dukakis was in 1998 after Boston Harbor’s pollution problem was exposed.
One example is the Pigeon River in North Carolina and east Tennesee. The Champion International paper mill has pumped tons of chemicals and byproducts into it for years, turning it the color of cofee and adding a sulfurish smell. Gore campaigned hard against this pollution and lobbied the EPA to crack down. But in 1987, as Gore started running for president the first time, he was pressured by 2 politicians whose support he craved for the North Carolina Super Tuesday primary. Terry Sanford (then a Senator) and Jamie Clarke (North Carolina congressmen) lobbied him hard to ease up on Champion. Gore did, writing to the EPA again and now asking for a more permissive water pollution standard. Sanford and Clarke endorsed him, and Gore won the state handily.
Another example is a Gore family property that has been mined for zinc and germanium for decades. The Vice-President and his dad, the late Senator Albert Gore, Sr., obtained the land in a very favorable deal with the late Armand Hammer of Occidental Petroleum. Gore, Sr. was heavily supported by Hammer financially, and carried his water in the U.S. Senate.
Back in 1972, when zinc was discovered across the river from the Gore family land in Carthage, TN, Hammer sent engineers out and offered $20,000 per year for a mineral rights lease on some property owned by a church that had been willed the land. Instead, they wanted to sell and Hammer won a bidding war to buy the land for $160,000. He then sold it to Gore Jr. and Sr. for the same amount, and immediately started leasing the land back from him for the same $20,000. Lynwood Burkhalter, who in the 70s was president of the company that assumed this lease from Occidental Petroleum, called the payments “extraordinarily large.”
Mining is, of course, a very messy business environmentally. The mine itself hasn’t been that bad. Republicans have claimed that it’s polluting the local drinking water, but according to the Wall Street Journal those problems “are actually very minor.” However, the Journal notes that the plant in Clarksville TN, which processes the Gore minerals, is a federal Superfund site contaminated with cadmium and mercury, posing “a threat to the human food chain.”

There’s also a damning quote about cutting down Yew trees to make a promising cancer treatment that we used to include in our Gore quotes section. Except that the really embarrassing part – which we got from an editorial in the Austin, Texas American Statesman – turns out to be distorted and out of context. The full quote, which is still a little odd, is:
“The Pacific Yew can be cut down and processed to produce a potent chemical, taxol, which offers some promise of curing certain forms of lung, breast and ovarian cancer in patients who would otherwise quickly die. It seems an easy choice – sacrifice the tree for a human life – until one learns that three trees must be destroyed for each patient treated, that only specimens more than a hundred years old contain the potent chemical in their bark, and that there are very few of these yews remaining on earth.” - Gore, in “Earth in the Balance”, p. 119
The distorted version puts a period after “for each patient treated,” as if the ratio of trees to humans was what bothered Gore. In reality, his point is that treating all current cancer patients would destroy all of the trees, leaving none of the drug for future cancer patients.
From Al to Zinc: Story of a Mine Shows How a Fatherly Favor Still Haunts Gore", by Glenn Simpson, Wall Street Journal, November 1, 2000 pA28
“Gore’s Pollution Problem”, Newsweek, November 24, 1997
“Earth in the Balance,” by Al Gore (Houghton Mifflin, 1992) p119 (Yew tree) and generally. “How Would Gore fare if he were called on to serve?,” by David Ridenour, Austin American-Statesman, August 16, 1998
 
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