Manchester 'explosions': A 'number of fatalities' reported following Ariana Grande concert

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So the US media and intelligence sources are at it again. Despite complaints from the UK, they continue to leak and report information and compromising the investigation and the hunt for potential suspects. That’s what countries with a ‘special relationship’ do when the terror threat is at critical, compromise investigations.
You obviously don’t know the truth. I see no complaints from the UK.! Furthermore, FBI.gov is an official site of the U.S. government, U.S. Department of Justice. The FBI has an overseas office:

London, England
American Embassy: 0-11-44-207-894-0007
Nations covered: United Kingdom ( England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales), Republic of Ireland, Channel Islands (Guernsey, Jersey)
fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices/europe/london-england
There is a concerted, patently obvious effort underway to undermine Trump, and the leaker(s) and media are not above compromising investigations and attempting to destroy alliances to do it. It’s despicable in every way.
Bill, there is no such thing as “compromising investigations and attempting to destroy alliances.”
 
You obviously don’t know the truth. I see no complaints from the UK.! Furthermore, FBI.gov is an official site of the U.S. government, U.S. Department of Justice. The FBI has an overseas office:

London, England
American Embassy: 0-11-44-207-894-0007
Nations covered: United Kingdom ( England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales), Republic of Ireland, Channel Islands (Guernsey, Jersey)
fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices/europe/london-england

Bill, there is no such thing as “compromising investigations and attempting to destroy alliances.”
Yes there is. Why leak details of a meeting between Trump and Russian diplomats to the press unless it would drive a wedge between Israel and the US and cause a scandal? Why leak details of the UK’s investigation unless it would do the same thing? Why would the media connect the Manchester leaks to Trump sharing intel with Russia, rather than with the actual leaker who got it plastered over the Washington Post?

Answer: they want to make it impossible for Trump to conduct any policy whatsoever. They are trying to manufacture a narrative that Trump is too dangerous to be trusted as POTUS and that allies are abandoning him. The reality is that the leakers are the ones who should have no place in any kind of government employment.
 
I truly find it hard to believe that Trump can put our relationship with an ally who provides us with invaluable intelligence at risk because he shares their Intel with a nation with whom they have an adversarial relationship and his supporters blame not him but those who point out his transgressions.
 
I truly find it hard to believe that Trump can put our relationship with an ally who provides us with invaluable intelligence at risk because he shares their Intel with a nation with whom they have an adversarial relationship and his supporters blame not him but those who point out his transgressions.
I blame John Podesta at the Washington Post.
 
I truly find it hard to believe that Trump can put our relationship with an ally who provides us with invaluable intelligence at risk because he shares their Intel with a nation with whom they have an adversarial relationship and his supporters blame not him but those who point out his transgressions.
 
I really don’t have time to argue with some people here. However, I remind everyone what is being said below:

Telegram of the Holy Father for the victims of the terrorist attack in Manchester, United Kingdom, 23.05.2017

The following is the telegram of condolences for the victims of the terrorist attack that occurred yesterday evening in Manchester, United Kingdom, sent by Cardinal Secretary of State Pietro Parolin on behalf of the Holy Father:

**Telegram
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His Holiness Pope Francis was deeply saddened to learn of the injury and tragic loss of life caused by the barbaric attack in Manchester, and he expresses his heartfelt solidarity with all those affected by this senseless act of violence. He commends the generous efforts of the emergency and security personnel, and offers the assurance of his prayers for the injured, and for all who have died. Mindful in a particular way of those children and young people who have lost their lives, and of their grieving families, Pope Francis invokes God’s blessings of peace, healing and strength upon the nation.

Cardinal Pietro Parolin
Secretary of State
press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2017/05/23/170523a.html
 
I am reminding people again.

I’ll add this too again!!!

Pope, English church leaders offer prayers after Manchester Arena attack
5.23.2017

MANCHESTER, England (CNS) – Pope Francis decried the “barbaric attack” on concertgoers in Manchester, adding his voice to Catholic leaders dismayed at what British officials said was the deadliest case of terrorism since 2005.

In a telegram sent to English church officials on Pope Francis’ behalf, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Vatican secretary of state, said the pope “was deeply saddened to learn of the injury and tragic loss of life” after a suicide bomb killed at least 22 people and injured another 59 at Manchester Arena May 22. Many concertgoers at the Ariana Grande concert were teenagers, young adults and families.

The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack.

The pope “expresses his heartfelt solidarity with all those affected by this senseless act of violence,” the telegram said, as “he commends the generous efforts of the emergency and security personnel and offers the assurance of his prayers for the injured, and for all who have died.”

“Mindful in a particular way of those children and young people who have lost their lives, and of their grieving families, Pope Francis invokes God’s blessings of peace, healing and strength upon the nation.”

In Britain, Cardinal Vincent Nichols of Westminster, president of the Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales, and other Catholic leaders offered prayers for the victims of the attacks and their families.

“My shock and dismay at the horrendous killing of young and innocent people in the Manchester Arena last night is, I know, shared by all people of goodwill,” Cardinal Nichols said in a May 23 statement posted on the Westminster archdiocesan website. "I know, too, that Catholics and many others will be praying earnestly for those who have been killed, for the bereaved and for grieving loved ones.

“We pray in support of all those working so hard in response to this tragedy: the police and security forces, hospital staff, neighbors and friends and for all the people of Manchester. May God, in his mercy, strengthen and sustain us and keep us firmly united in the face of all evil.”

The terrorist attack took place within the Diocese of Salford, which incorporates most of Manchester and much of northwest England.

Bishop John Arnold of Salford offered a lunchtime Mass May 23 at St. Mary’s, a popular city-center church close to Manchester Arena.

In a statement the same day, he said: "The citizens of Manchester and the members of the Catholic community are united in condemning the attack on the crowds at the Manchester Arena.

“Such an attack can have no justification. I thank the emergency services for their prompt and speedy response which saved lives,” he continued. “We join in prayer for all those who have died and for the injured and their families and all affected by this tragedy. We must all commit ourselves to working together, in every way, to help the victims and their families and to build and strengthen our community solidarity.”

Bishop Mark Davies of Shrewsbury, whose diocese covers southern parts of Manchester, wrote to his clergy, urging them to pray for the victims and their families.
“Let us also keep in our prayer the police and emergency services, together with all hospital staff and chaplains,” he said in his letter.

The bishop added: “Together with church and religious leaders in Greater Manchester, I ask the prayers of your parishioners for peace and solidarity in all our communities that the hate which inspires such indiscriminate violence may be overcome by that love which faith and prayer inspires in our hearts. I hope the days ahead, overshadowed by this atrocity, will lead us all to such prayer and active charity.”

Cardinal Daniel N. DiNardo of Galveston-Houston, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, wrote Bishop Arnold to assure him of the prayers of Catholics in the United States.

“Words are not enough to convey the deep shock and sadness with which Catholics and all people of goodwill in the United States learned of the horrible attack which took place yesterday at England’s Manchester Arena,” said his letter, released May 23 in Washington. He mentioned “the unspeakable loss of life, terrible injuries, and untold trauma to families – especially to children.”

“Evil, as dense and dark as it is, never has the last word,” Cardinal DiNardo wrote. “As we prepare to celebrate the new dawn of Pentecost again, may the Easter words of the risen Christ, ‘Peace be with you,’ settle deep into the hearts of the citizens of your great country.”
catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2017/pope-prays-for-victims-of-barbaric-attack-in-manchester.cfm

I"m a United States citizen! Please don’t attack my president!
 
You obviously don’t know the truth. I see no complaints from the UK.! Furthermore, FBI.gov is an official site of the U.S. government, U.S. Department of Justice. The FBI has an overseas office:

London, England
American Embassy: 0-11-44-207-894-0007
Nations covered: United Kingdom ( England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales), Republic of Ireland, Channel Islands (Guernsey, Jersey)
fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices/europe/london-england

Bill, there is no such thing as “compromising investigations and attempting to destroy alliances.”
You might want to start listening to UK goverment and Police view on the leaked photos etc.
 
Then let Iran, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia lead the military coalition to destroy ISIS. If Western involvement is worse, let them take action. Instead of stoning women and children for their immoral actions, let these countries have the guts to take on men that are far more evil. They may despise the West, but they are far more despicable when they commit violence against those who cannot defend themselves and allow evil men to flourish in their midst. This is why I question the resolve of Muslim countries in the region.
duertes seems to be doing just that, in a predominantly Catholic country.
 
There is a concerted, patently obvious effort underway to undermine Trump, and the leaker(s) and media are not above compromising investigations and attempting to destroy alliances to do it. It’s despicable in every way.
I’m no fan of Trump but I recognize the fact many in the media don’t like him, (which doesn’t excuse Trump of legitimate concerns and criticisms). I see this as a possibility.
You obviously don’t know the truth. I see no complaints from the UK.!
Publication of photographs, including a device described as a “possible detonator” by the New York Times, prompted a furious response from within Whitehall and from UK police chiefs.
Details about Abedi’s identity had already emerged in the US media less than 24 hours after the explosion.
Home Secretary Amber Rudd said she was “irritated” by the disclosure and had warned Washington “it should not happen again”.
Despite that plea, the photographs - which were later reproduced in the UK media and appear to show bloodstained fragments from the bomb and the backpack used to conceal it - were published afterwards.
A Whitehall source described the second leak as “on another level”, and told the BBC it had caused “disbelief and astonishment” across the British government.
The source said the the issue was “being raised at every relevant level by the British authorities with their US counterparts”.
The UK’s National Police Chiefs’ Council described the “unauthorised disclosure” as a breach of trust which had potentially undermined a “major counter-terrorism investigation”.
Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham said the leaks had worried him “greatly,” and he had raised them with the US ambassador.
Mr Burnham told Newsnight a decision had been taken to adopt a “cautious approach” to making information public, “and yet the first reports were coming seemingly out of the United States”.
Abedi’s identity was first reported in the US - with American TV networks CBS and NBC naming him as the suspect.
bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40040210
 
You might want to start listening to UK goverment and Police view on the leaked photos etc.
Roseeurekacross, I support the FBI! I have a friend in the FBI. I am an American!

Our Priorities
Protect the United States from terrorist attack
Protect the United States against foreign intelligence operations and espionage
Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high-technology crimes
Combat public corruption at all levels
Protect civil rights
Combat transnational/national criminal organizations and enterprises
Combat major white-collar crime
Combat significant violent crime

fbi.gov/about/mission
I’m no fan of Trump but I recognize the fact many in the media don’t like him, (which doesn’t excuse Trump of legitimate concerns and criticisms). I see this as a possibility.
I love Trump! He is my president!

Who is the head of the FBI?
The FBI is led by a Director, who is appointed by the U.S. President and confirmed by the Senate for a term not to exceed 10 years. Andrew McCabe is currently serving as Acting Director of the FBI.
fbi.gov/about/faqs
 
Roseeurekacross, I support the FBI! I have a friend in the FBI. I am an American!

Our Priorities
Protect the United States from terrorist attack
Protect the United States against foreign intelligence operations and espionage
Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high-technology crimes
Combat public corruption at all levels
Protect civil rights
Combat transnational/national criminal organizations and enterprises
Combat major white-collar crime
Combat significant violent crime

fbi.gov/about/mission

I love Trump! He is my president!

Who is the head of the FBI?
The FBI is led by a Director, who is appointed by the U.S. President and confirmed by the Senate for a term not to exceed 10 years. Andrew McCabe is currently serving as Acting Director of the FBI.
fbi.gov/about/faqs
Good for you! Love your enthusiasm. I am an Australian. We have ASIO.

We are both your allies and the Brit’s allies. Perhaps Aussie news is broadcasting the displeasure about the leaks and the consequences of the leaks, more or earlier then USA media. We are ahead of you timewise 👌

I doubt Trump will be very impressed about it either.
 
Good for you! Love your enthusiasm. I am an Australian. We have ASIO.

We are both your allies and the Brit’s allies. Perhaps Aussie news is broadcasting the displeasure about the leaks and the consequences of the leaks, more or earlier then USA media. We are ahead of you timewise 👌

I doubt Trump will be very impressed about it either.
I have quite a few friends that are Australian and British that live in my city! 😃 California brats we all are! 🙂 Recently, I had a huge party at my home with 'em all ~ 😃 We had a great time. Fact is we travel around together. We all like Trump! 😃
 
A little sharing of the best in humanity that cones out in the worst of pain.
Taxi drivers who drove persons to safety for free.
People who opened their homes to offer rooms.
People who went to the Arena with food .
Homeless persons who hugged the dying.
Persons who gathered money for the families of the dead.
Persons who offered the homeless who helped, pay months of rent.
Persons who worked relentlessly to carry the wounded .
People who protected the orphans .
Thank you,Lord,for such loving people who bring warmth in the worst of moments.
 
A little sharing of the best in humanity that cones out in the worst of pain.
Taxi drivers who drove persons to safety for free.
People who opened their homes to offer rooms.
People who went to the Arena with food .
Homeless persons who hugged the dying.
Persons who gathered money for the families of the dead.
Persons who offered the homeless who helped, pay months of rent.
Persons who worked relentlessly to carry the wounded .
People who protected the orphans .
Code:
Thank you,Lord,for such loving people who bring warmth in the worst of moments.
👍
 
I am reminding people again.
“barbaric attack”

I"m a United States citizen! Please don’t attack my president!
This barbaric attack was an act of “Radical Islamic terrorism” – the very phrase a certain world leader insisted that everyone must use. Considering the “loser” (barbaric acts can now be committed by “losers”) was in Libya (presumably not for Spring Break), this is clearly a textbook case of “Radical Islamic terrorism” as the “loser” who committed the barbaric act was radicalized first.
 
This barbaric attack was an act of “Radical Islamic terrorism” – the very phrase a certain world leader insisted that everyone must use. Considering the “loser” (barbaric acts can now be committed by “losers”) was in Libya (presumably not for Spring Break), this is clearly a textbook case of “Radical Islamic terrorism” as the “loser” who committed the barbaric act was radicalized first.
Seriously,you need to calm down and get a grip!:eek:
 
Instead of powerless rants, propose a way to end this nonsense. Like flagging known terrorist websites and actively monitoring those who frequent them, and maybe arrest on suspicion, not after the fact. Yeah, all ‘horrible ideas’ but I am not seeing any that may be more practical at the moment!

I think the arguments over the proper term for radicalized terrorists is being used as an excuse to avoid actually doing something about it.
 
Instead of powerless rants, propose a way to end this nonsense. Like flagging known terrorist websites and actively monitoring those who frequent them, and maybe arrest on suspicion, not after the fact. Yeah, all ‘horrible ideas’ but I am not seeing any that may be more practical at the moment!

I think the arguments over the proper term for radicalized terrorists is being used as an excuse to avoid actually doing something about it.
Like including on travel ban lists countries that are believed to be complicit in terrorism against the U.S., like Saudi Arabia, rather than rewarding them with obscene arms deals? :rolleyes:
 
Good for you! Love your enthusiasm. I am an Australian. We have ASIO.

We are both your allies and the Brit’s allies. Perhaps Aussie news is broadcasting the displeasure about the leaks and the consequences of the leaks, more or earlier then USA media. We are ahead of you timewise 👌

I doubt Trump will be very impressed about it either.
I certainly hope that Trump goes after those leakers as well as the more “Adminstrative” ones. The point of sharing information among law enforcement agencies is to get or give help, not to allow some idiot to make points with the NYT. US LEOs would also be furious, and rightfully so!
 
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