Many Adams and Eves?

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StAnastasia said:
And why things fall down? And why South America and Africa seem like they fit together? Or are those to be explained by religion?
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Science again. I think it can be boiled down to the distinction you made. Science should be taught as should literature and history. Religion in the breakdown between arts and sciences belongs in the former category. I’m all for religious education in public schools as long as students are being taught about religions and not being taught religion.
 
ricmat said:
Ok it wasn’t for commercial purposes. The bill was introduced by a mathematical “hobbyist/ crackpot” and never should have gotten as far as it did.

I’ve forgotten … why did you bring this up? If you’re looking for religious fanaticism, it seems like a dead end. But there’s some promise here if you’re looking for scientific fanaticism.
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Someone say that a state legislature trying to legislate the value of pi was an urban legend and I was pointing out that it in fact almost happened. That was all. It just kind of ran down the hill on its own.
 
ThomasToo said:
Someone say that a state legislature trying to legislate the value of pi was an urban legend and I was pointing out that it in fact almost happened. That was all. It just kind of ran down the hill on its own.
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OK - end of story. 👍
 
ThomasToo said:
Set up the thread and I’m happy to discuss it. You do realize that you’re not trying to show me but the United States government (the senate unanimously approved the treaty I quoted) wrong?
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I am aware of the treaty. However, it does not negate the ample evidence.
 
To buffalo -

Humans and Neanderthals interbred:

sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100506141549.htm

I had suspected Neanderthals had interbred with humans, and I’ll go further, are humans. The adaptability function of the human genome leads me to believe that the Neanderthals were geographically adapted to their region and the out of Africa humans were geographically adapted to theirs. Therefore, the differences were regional and geographic. Look at the Chinese and Japanese. Pick up a book about the various physical differences between the Chinese. You’ll see northern Chinese are generally taller than those that live in the south. The epicanthic fold in the eyes distinguishes the Japanese and Chinese.

Too bad there is only one explanatory filter being marketed out there.

God bless,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
To buffalo -

Humans and Neanderthals interbred:

sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100506141549.htm

I had suspected Neanderthals had interbred with humans, and I’ll go further, are humans. The adaptability function of the human genome leads me to believe that the Neanderthals were geographically adapted to their region and the out of Africa humans were geographically adapted to theirs. Therefore, the differences were regional and geographic. Look at the Chinese and Japanese. Pick up a book about the various physical differences between the Chinese. You’ll see northern Chinese are generally taller than those that live in the south. The epicanthic fold in the eyes distinguishes the Japanese and Chinese.

Too bad there is only one explanatory filter being marketed out there.

God bless,
Ed
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Neanderthals are human.
 
A while ago, I made a detailed post explaining that the Church no longer seems to teach monogenism. Nobody has commented or attempted to refute it. I still wonder why the Pontifical Academy of Sciences made these assertions in apparent contradiction to Church teaching unless the Church has reversed her opinion on this in the face of scientific research.
 
Elizium23 said:
A while ago, I made a detailed post explaining that the Church no longer seems to teach monogenism. Nobody has commented or attempted to refute it. I still wonder why the Pontifical Academy of Sciences made these assertions in apparent contradiction to Church teaching unless the Church has reversed her opinion on this in the face of scientific research.
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CCC - Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.265
 
StAnastasia said:
Which belief system should be maintained in the science classroom? Jewish? Christian? Islamic? Hindu? Buddhist? Agnostic? Deist? Atheist?

Or should this be by majority vote in the individual community?
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In the science classroom, there’s no need to address different religious beliefs. Just teach science.
 
edwest2 said:
As Pope Benedict recently stated: “Evolution is not a complete, scientifically proven theory.”

That’s where I stand.

God bless,
Ed
Choose Jesus.
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Right. Which agrees with my point, how do we know what God chose?
 
buffalo said:
Next - is that how He wanted Adam to look?
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What? Who knows? If we believe God created Adam and Eve, what basis is there to think that they “looked” other than God intended? Sorry, I have no clue what you mean or what is relevant from that question.
 
diggerdomer said:
Yes. Exactly.
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** DID WOMAN EVOLVE FROM THE BEASTS?
A DEFENCE OF TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC DOCTRINE - PART I **

*** by Brian W. Harrison, O.S., M.A., S.T.D.
Associate Professor of Theology,
Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico ***
Introduction
The purpose of this essay is to defend a doctrinal thesis which is quite simple, very clear, very classical, but now very unpopular — not to say outrightly scorned and derided. I will argue that the formation by God of the first woman, Eve, from the side of the sleeping, adult Adam had, by the year 1880, been proposed infallibly by the universal and ordinary magisterium of the Catholic Church as literally and historically true; so that this must forever remain a doctrine to be held definitively (at least) by all the faithful. I would express the thesis in Latin as follows:
Definitive tenendum est mulierem primam vere et historice formatam esse a Deo e latere primi viri dormientis.
 
diggerdomer said:
What? Who knows? If we believe God created Adam and Eve, what basis is there to think that they “looked” other than God intended? Sorry, I have no clue what you mean or what is relevant from that question.
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If Adam looked as God intended that is a problem for random chance and natural selection.
 
edwest2 said:
Adam and Eve were not just two animals that were given something. Both were immortal and both communicated with God directly. Eve was made by God from Adam’s side.

God bless,
Ed
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They weren’t immortal. They died. If you disagree, please give me their current address, or phone number, etc.
 
StAnastasia said:
Stated this way it is a contradiction. That’s why many of us read the Genesis stories symbolically rather than literally.
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Fortunately, Catholics are free to read Scripture both symbolically and literally (along with many other ways).
 
buffalo said:
Almost a Thousand Major Scientists Dissent from Darwin!

A major storm of protest against the myth of evolution has been building for many years, as proved by almost a thousand major scientists, all with doctorates who have signed on to the following statement as of 2010: “We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”

more…
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Catholics don’t see evolution as a “myth” but rather as a scientific hypothesis that is subject to the same criteria or proof as any other scientific theory.
 
grannymh said:
Granted there is a lot of biological diversity on earth. But there is only one human species with the same human nature since its two first parents. This human nature is spirit/matter. Spirit does not evolve from matter. So the most plausible explanation for the non-diverse human species is that it had to arise from two first parents.
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How do you know that God could not have “evolved” (as you say) spirit from matter?
 
edwest2 said:
The atheists have taken over the classroom. That is a fact.

Materialism is the new dogma. You are nothing but another animal.

God bless,
Ed
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Not in the public school my children attend. Sorry, not a “fact” as you claim.
 
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