March for Women

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queenofheartscv said:
is it safe to say that abortion is the main issue that motivates these women? It’s really sad that in this country of affluence women feel they have to have access to abortion, while in some countries women are being doled out forced sterilization.
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Rather than say “abortion” is the main issue that motivates these women and men, better to say abortion is the main issue that dominates the small number of people in control of the media. The protesters have absorbed the media, and absorbed the media’s leading fanaticism, along with gay marriage. If the media had decided to focus heavily on some other song, these protesters would be marching to that other song.

In effect, there are 2 churches in the US and other Western countries. The media is one, backed up by higher education;

and the Catholic Church leads the other, backed up by a growing group of evangelical or conservative Protestants.
 
Sarcelle said:
Yes. There should be a Men’s march dedicated to authentic masculinity.

A lot better than the women’s march which has an evil like abortion enshrined as a feminist sacrament. Sickening.
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I agree.

Ed
 
DaddyGirl said:
Um, no. It’s not safe to say that at all.

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I saw an interview on TV of a representative from the women’s march where she said the biggest fear they have is Trump will take away abortion rights.
 
DeniseNY said:
I’m kind of wondering if she may get a visit from the Secret Service.
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Yes,that’s what I think should happen.There is a woman here in Denver that tweeted something about Trump should be assiniated and it was all over the news,police questioning her …
 
sallybutler said:
I am totally not getting your point.

In my opinion, pornography is bad. Full stop. There is no reason for it. It hurts those who make it. It hurts those who view it. There is no socially redeeming value to it.

Perhaps this is because I am female. Perhaps it is because I am Catholic. I don’t know.
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Time to backtrack before you assumed what my opinion was. Someone brought up the idea of a Catholic men’s conference and mentioned various subjects discussed at them. I pointed out that none of those are actually men’s issues, just a discussion about how men can modify their behavior to better serve female interests and be reminded of how terrible and oppressive they are to boot.
 
nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/

By my draft research, which I’m opening up for crowd-sourcing on GoogleDocs, Soros has funded, or has close relationships with, at least 56 of the march’s “partners,” including “key partners” Planned Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, and the National Resource Defense Council, which opposes Trump’s environmental policies. The other Soros ties with “Women’s March” organizations include the partisan MoveOn.org (which was fiercely pro-Clinton), the National Action Network (which has a former executive director lauded by Obama senior advisor Valerie Jarrett as “a leader of tomorrow” as a march co-chair and another official as “the head of logistics”). Other Soros grantees who are “partners” in the march are the American Civil Liberties Union, Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. March organizers and the organizations identified here haven’t yet returned queries for comment.
 
edwest2 said:
I agree.

Ed
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And what, exactly, is real masculinity? Is it taking care of your family, making sure your wife isn’t worn out from too many pregnancies or worrying about how the children will be fed, protecting all women and children from abuse, teaching boys that women are to be treated as princesses, making sure that no woman in your community has to struggle to feed her children (widows and abandoned women in particular come to mind), punishing men that violate these rules.

I have yet to see men follow these rules. I am sure that there are many that follow some of the rules. But few follow all, especially when it comes to those outside their immediate family.

So before a person complains about ‘feminists’, maybe they should look to how men in general, treat women. Many women are left to fend for themselves. Are you there to help them?
 
queenofheartscv said:
nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/

By my draft research, which I’m opening up for crowd-sourcing on GoogleDocs, Soros has funded, or has close relationships with, at least 56 of the march’s “partners,” including “key partners” Planned Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, and the National Resource Defense Council, which opposes Trump’s environmental policies. The other Soros ties with “Women’s March” organizations include the partisan MoveOn.org (which was fiercely pro-Clinton), the National Action Network (which has a former executive director lauded by Obama senior advisor Valerie Jarrett as “a leader of tomorrow” as a march co-chair and another official as “the head of logistics”). Other Soros grantees who are “partners” in the march are the American Civil Liberties Union, Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. March organizers and the organizations identified here haven’t yet returned queries for comment.
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Not surprising.GS is not going away quietly. He was so heavily vested in the last election,all the way down to the most local level and in spite of his efforts the Republicans prevailed.He has to be pretty ticked off.
 
sallybutler said:
And what, exactly, is real masculinity? Is it taking care of your family, making sure your wife isn’t worn out from too many pregnancies or worrying about how the children will be fed, protecting all women and children from abuse, teaching boys that women are to be treated as princesses, making sure that no woman in your community has to struggle to feed her children (widows and abandoned women in particular come to mind), punishing men that violate these rules.

I have yet to see men follow these rules. I am sure that there are many that follow some of the rules. But few follow all, especially when it comes to those outside their immediate family.

So before a person complains about ‘feminists’, maybe they should look to how men in general, treat women. Many women are left to fend for themselves. Are you there to help them?
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I’m just shocked the Left is approving of such language when they were so against it a few short months ago!
 
Michael68 said:
I’m just shocked the Left is approving of such language when they were so against it a few short months ago!
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That is an interesting point. There has been just criticism, I believe, of some of Donald Trump’s past language… yet the disgusting vulgarity that was on signs, etc. regarding women and other things at the Women’s March is curious. Why are so many using language which degrades women? Aren’t they claming they stand up for women?
 
_Abyssinia said:
That is an interesting point. There has been just criticism, I believe, of some of Donald Trump’s past language… yet the disgusting vulgarity that was on signs, etc. regarding women and other things at the Women’s March is curious. Why are so many using language which degrades women? Aren’t they claming they stand up for women?
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It isn’t the language they have a problem with – it’s the advocated action that accompanied the language. I’m routinely surprised when this is overlooked, though I don’t know why I am anymore.
 
_Abyssinia said:
That is an interesting point. There has been just criticism, I believe, of some of Donald Trump’s past language… yet the disgusting vulgarity that was on signs, etc. regarding women and other things at the Women’s March is curious. Why are so many using language which degrades women? Aren’t they claming they stand up for women?
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The hypocrisy is stunning,isn’t it?!?
 
North Dakota introduced a bill that would allow motorists to run over and kill protesters obstructing a highway.

Given the number and increasing frequency of public protests…laws will change.
 
gracepoole said:
Agreed. Of the many I know who protested today, at least 3/4 of them were focused on other issues. Nor were they all women by any means.
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What are these issues?

Because my FB feed was just generic anti-Trump sentiments so I have no idea what the message is…

There’s a lot of talk of fear, but fear of what exactly?
 
gracepoole said:
It isn’t the language they have a problem with – it’s the advocated action that accompanied the language. I’m routinely surprised when this is overlooked, though I don’t know why I am anymore.
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Do you mean what was on the Billy Bush tape? There was crude language on that tape. That tape was disgusting, but he did apologise, his own wife accepted the apology. Some
people won’t accept that, and I’m sure they didn’t vote for him but that tape doesn’t explain for example, why there was so much abortion advocacy at the March of or why there was anti-Catholic bigotry.

I don’t believe that most people attended the March to protest the billy bush tape. I think most were they because they don’t like Trump, they are upset that he is President, they are upset that he could do away with Planned Parenthood funding, appoint a conservative justice to the Supreme Court, do away with environmental regulations etc.
 
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